SteveStrummerUK
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PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
...(if you haven't already done so) check out your Pro Channel presets. There are some nice new ones in there: A nice touch that, and some great starting points for those (like me) who are unfamiliar with Levelling Amps. And apologies if I'm late to the party and everybody already knew this
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/24 15:40:54
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/24 15:43:48
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The " Bass - Saturated & Levelled" preset sounds wonderful on my Jazz
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/24 15:45:24
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Hey Steve, I think we're digital friends now, just one thing dont encourage the kiddies to use presets, they should use their ears and if the don't have the ears learn basic settings. I'm just saying that is, I really hate presets, even when I was starting out. For the LA2UAD version, I always use it just gentley, that is around 3 db of gain reduction, maybe it can do more but after 3db of gain reduction it just pumps like **** ok sometimes you want that. Another thing does this LA2 work in Mono, mode I know I have to use a special LA2 plug with the UAD version so it works in mono mode. Hope I haven't upset you Steve, we all have opinions on these things and presets for me are a big no no. Love You Neb
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/24 15:47:09
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Cool, I did not know that. Another cool thing about the pro channel modules is the ease of opening the manual within Sonar. Just F1 when the module is selected and you're there. And I think it was the user Eric Beam who pointed out that right clicking the PC2A allows the user to select between classic and normal mode.
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2012/03/24 15:49:58
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BenMMusTech Hey Steve, I think we're digital friends now, just one thing dont encourage the kiddies to use presets, they should use their ears and if the don't have the ears learn basic settings. I'm just saying that is, I really hate presets, even when I was starting out. For the LA2UAD version, I always use it just gentley, that is around 3 db of gain reduction, maybe it can do more but after 3db of gain reduction it just pumps like **** ok sometimes you want that. Another thing does this LA2 work in Mono, mode I know I have to use a special LA2 plug with the UAD version so it works in mono mode. Hope I haven't upset you Steve, we all have opinions on these things and presets for me are a big no no. Love You Neb No problem Enb And I know exactly what you're getting at. I tend to dial in my own settings on stuff I've become familiar with over the years, and I mentioned the presets because for those of us unfamiliar with any piece of gear, they can be a good place to start. I mean somebody had to dial them up in the first place didn't they. Plums and melons
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/24 15:51:03
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Sorry, but pre-sets are a good starting point. Is all. And I object to be being called a kiddie. Cheers, Jerry
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2012/03/24 16:06:40
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joakes Sorry, but pre-sets are a good starting point. Is all. And I object to be being called a kiddie. Cheers, Jerry Jerry I get it you don't like me but I think i have said one mean thing to you in my digital life. I don't dislike you and you have said way worse things to me (hmm I sound like Jesus  ). It's an expression and you know what I would never say it to real children but we're adults around here. One of my best friends was French, her name was Julie and I went out on wing for her when she was a student here in Oz, she was treated appallingly by the UNI and by the people she was staying with. I was her best friend here, so much so, that when she was about to leave she spent the last two weeks with me. I even wrote this song for her: http://soundcloud.com/aaudiomystiks/tcsmaster-track-24 (it's been used on TV as well and it's not a plug, it's an example) The Crying Song, on the day she left, I cried so much I couldn't even go to the station to see her off. Even as I write this post, I am crying, I loved her that much. We're digital friends and the last time we spoke she said we would see other again, one day. I am saying this because you are French and I hope you get what I am saying. I have no hatred in my bones for you, perhaps it's a language thing, I don't know, you seem angry perhaps we have something in commen and we are both angry. I don't know. Love you Jerry Neb
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2012/03/24 16:06:41
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BenMMusTech Hey Steve, I think we're digital friends now, just one thing dont encourage the kiddies to use presets, they should use their ears and if the don't have the ears learn basic settings. I'm just saying that is, I really hate presets, even when I was starting out. For the LA2UAD version, I always use it just gentley, that is around 3 db of gain reduction, maybe it can do more but after 3db of gain reduction it just pumps like **** ok sometimes you want that. Another thing does this LA2 work in Mono, mode I know I have to use a special LA2 plug with the UAD version so it works in mono mode. Hope I haven't upset you Steve, we all have opinions on these things and presets for me are a big no no. Love You Neb I think presets are a great starting point of examples to see what the developer had in mind when the plug was created. No one who have been doing this for any length of time would operate just off of presets if they are truly trying to mix. To get too rapped up or arrogant about presets get my motor running. They are examples from the developer, why wouldn't one like to see those? Granted, they should not be used blindly. Your tips on usage are in of themselves - kind of like presets. They shouldn't be blindly used by the kiddies either.
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2012/03/24 16:06:58
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Shouldn't you be in bed, joakes. I know it's not a school night but you're overtired and you know what you're like when you get overtired.
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/24 16:11:17
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Steve, Thanks for the heads up, I bought the PC2A yesterday but hadn't thought to look at the presets for updates. Will have to check them out. I find the presets a quite nice starting point for specific tracks and am appreciative of Cakewalk and other preset authors sharing their experience. While I agree with Neb that you should ultimately use your ears, it would also be quite illogical not to use the experiences of others, particulary working professionals in the field, to determne a good baseline or starting point for your own mixes. Regards
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/24 16:13:21
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musicroom BenMMusTech Hey Steve, I think we're digital friends now, just one thing dont encourage the kiddies to use presets, they should use their ears and if the don't have the ears learn basic settings. I'm just saying that is, I really hate presets, even when I was starting out. For the LA2UAD version, I always use it just gentley, that is around 3 db of gain reduction, maybe it can do more but after 3db of gain reduction it just pumps like **** ok sometimes you want that. Another thing does this LA2 work in Mono, mode I know I have to use a special LA2 plug with the UAD version so it works in mono mode. Hope I haven't upset you Steve, we all have opinions on these things and presets for me are a big no no. Love You Neb I think presets are a great starting point of examples to see what the developer had in mind when the plug was created. No one who have been doing this for any length of time would operate just off of presets if they are truly trying to mix. To get too rapped up or arrogant about presets get my motor running. They are examples from the developer, why wouldn't one like to see those? Granted, they should not be used blindly. Your tips on usage are in of themselves - kind of like presets. They shouldn't be blindly used by the kiddies either. So a converstaion between Steve and I about presets and now everybody wants my head, I'm trying to help. I have a book of basic settings, I am strewn between two cities and I gave my scanner to my ex in the break up proceedings, otherwise I would scan them for everyone. Another thing people may not know is that this is an Opto Compressor and they work differently to VCA compressors and or FET compressor you need to know this more than a bunch of presets. Neb
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2012/03/24 16:16:07
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markno999 Steve, Thanks for the heads up, I bought the PC2A yesterday but hadn't thought to look at the presets for updates. Neither had I Mark, that's why I thought I'd mention it. I have created some of my own 'presets', and as you can see from my screenshot, I have made some attempt to keep them tidy and in logical folders. I was just going in there to open my go-to bass 'preset' when I noticed all the new ones in there.
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2012/03/24 23:53:44
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strikinglyhandsome1 Shouldn't you be in bed, joakes. I know it's not a school night but you're overtired and you know what you're like when you get overtired. Nah, waiting for my cocoa
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2012/03/25 00:47:54
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a preset is somthing i live and die by, why would i want to USE MY EARs when im doing so many things in a compleat prodution. plug chain presets -,i created about 3-4 with the best of 3 plugs main knobs, vocal presets -channel tool, vocal plug, delay, all sit ona track preset. and the prochannel preset -even pull up the plugs all set up. my delay sidechain preset -took me 2 hours and 3 videos to set up thanks to danny and craig speaking of danny his video on presets, and seting up projects i think it was? is one of my fav .
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2012/03/25 04:57:10
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Thanks for the heads up Stevestrummer. Note to myself - make things nice and tidy [and time saving] With labelled folders. Garry
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2012/03/25 06:28:19
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yep - strummy - I found those yesterday. very cool!
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/25 06:40:02
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Presets are great starting points. But with any dynamics type of plug the very first thing you always have to do is setup the threshold/input/drive control to suit the track you're working. Then you'll have to adjust the makeup gain/output You might get away with using the preset time constants and ratio settings. EQ presets can be far more forgiving and in many situations a given preset might be just what you need.
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2012/03/25 06:56:37
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A friend of mine who owns and operates a commercial studio once surprised me when he told me that he used channel strips presets quite often in Logic. The stuff he produces sounds as good as what's out there, though admittedly he isn't the next Roger Nichols. If it works, it works, If not, adjust it. Now, if you can't hear that it doesn't work and what needs to be adjusted, then you'd probably do no better trying to do it all yourself starting from scratch. Thinking that you'll somehow stumble on the magical combination w/o the experience is as silly as expecting that presets magically work on everything.
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2012/03/25 07:31:41
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Rain that is a wonderful post. I'm not sure how you were able to pack so much in it. I fully agree with every word.
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2012/03/25 08:01:01
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I used to always have track sheets when working in analog and would start fresh but similar tracks and or projects referring to those sheets for the starting point for the channel/bus etc. Nothing's changed, we save known plugin chains to get a desired result quickly and save settings to save all that gross knob twirling and use fine tuning from a preset base.
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2012/03/25 10:50:39
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Exactly how do I access the presets for the PC2A Leveler? Thanks!
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Re:PC2A Levelling Amp purchasers...
2012/03/25 10:54:12
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You don't for the leveller specifically. All presets are PC ones some of which will utilise the leveller. I rarely use them, perhaps someone who's in the know will be more helpful.
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2012/03/25 10:56:18
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Not one of the anti-presets brigade myself. But I must say, I think the best quality of the PC is that the modules are designed for simplicity and specific use cases, and there's really not much need for presets.
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2012/03/25 12:42:18
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Thanks Steve for screenshot. Have just tidied up my presets folder along similar lines + added one for vox.
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2012/03/25 12:53:16
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damn..i thought this was going to be followed by "...you will all be receiving a coupon good for one free hardware LA2" I'm wearing my optimism hat today
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2012/03/26 00:46:39
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John Rain that is a wonderful post. I'm not sure how you were able to pack so much in it. I fully agree with every word. John I don't know how you can pack so much agreement is so few words. I'm speechless.
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2012/03/26 01:32:29
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bapu John Rain that is a wonderful post. I'm not sure how you were able to pack so much in it. I fully agree with every word. John I don't know how you can pack so much agreement is so few words. I'm speechless. LOL Nice one.
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2012/03/26 02:39:00
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Rain If it works, it works, If not, adjust it. This. Plus if you're cranking away doing massive volumes of material being able to pull up a preset that gets you 90% there is sometimes all you need. Don't get me wrong, I love being a perfectionist twiddler...but I also love turning over projects and getting paid.
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2012/03/26 03:51:36
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BenMMusTech Hey Steve, I think we're digital friends now, just one thing dont encourage the kiddies to use presets, they should use their ears and if the don't have the ears learn basic settings. I'm just saying that is, I really hate presets, even when I was starting out. For the LA2UAD version, I always use it just gentley, that is around 3 db of gain reduction, maybe it can do more but after 3db of gain reduction it just pumps like **** ok sometimes you want that. Another thing does this LA2 work in Mono, mode I know I have to use a special LA2 plug with the UAD version so it works in mono mode. Hope I haven't upset you Steve, we all have opinions on these things and presets for me are a big no no. Love You Neb Presets are a good starting point and most pros used them. The idea that it is for beginners is false. Although it is true that beginners use them a lot to learn about how specific settings are dialed in etc. I have seen many world class mixer use presets without any "shame". It just sounds like the synth fanatics that claim they don't use synth presets. They make every single sound they use. Well, good for them...I love using presets as a stating point and only tweak in case I need to. I see it as a short cut...sometimes it can take longer to get there, but most of the times, for me, they really help. Regards, joni
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