POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting')

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2005/05/21 19:21:59 (permalink)

POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting')

Sorry, this is uninetentionally cross-posted in the Sonar forum.


What in the world is going on?

Recently installed an M-audio Audiophile 24/96 with Pro-Audio 8 (I know old, but it came with my control surface, which is.. ) a (Peavey/Cakewalk) StudioMix. And I have so far untraceable intemittent pops and clicks. Under every configuration I've tried so far, I have gotten no consistent results. I have tried many different settings (buffers, latency, etc). I record a track and it sounds fine. Then I start over (or stop and start) and record the exact same track, changing nothing, and I get the 'ol pops and clicks. It happens on about 30% of takes. It happens regardless of input (ie guitar w/DI, mic through board, etc). And nothing I do seems to change that ratio (of good takes to bad.)

I'm about to do a demo with my band, so I would really love to get this figured out. So we don't waste time (and good takes!)

Some other details are below (what I know at the moment since I'm at work, ummm working):

Computer:
AMD 1.3
Via chipset
768mb RAM
2- 80gb HDD recently
ATI All in Wonder 8500 (acceleration off)
M-Audio Audiophile 24/96
Win98SE
Cakewalk Pro Audio 8
No other cards, all drivers recent to the best of my knowledge

Peavey/Cakewalk StudioMix control surface
set up with inputs to my very quiet soudcraft mixer, out of 2 aux sends, then to the ins of the control surface then into the Audiophile card.

Midi hookup for the control surface is through the midi on the Audiophile.

All levels (in the M-Audio utility and Cakewalk) have been checked a hundred times, are set plenty low, so it's not digital or audio clipping. And the pops and clicks appear at about the same rate (about 30% of the time) regardless of any of the levels settings as far as I can tell. So far I haven't stumbled across any single software setting that makes a difference.

I have followed all published troubleshooting ideas in the M-Audio manual and other official performance suggestions. (eg: making sure sampling rate and bit depth are the same throughout applications, turning off video acceleration, etc) but obviously am missing something.

The frustrating part is just how intermittent this is. How can I record a track, it sounds great, then erase the track (or delete the contents, or start a new project from scratch) using the exact same levels and then get (as my guitar player calls it) digital "farting?" Makes little or no sense to me.

Sorry to be so long-winded, just trying to be thorough. Thanks for any help!!!

Shawn

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    damballah
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    RE: POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting') 2005/05/23 07:22:00 (permalink)
    Guys, I hope you 'll like this post!
    My config is
    PC AMD 2000+
    Motherboard A7V8X (I guess Via) VIA v4.51
    2 120 Gb HDD UDMA 5
    RAM 512
    FW Adapter based on TI Chipset

    My sound card is Motu 828 mk2 and I use Cubase I also experiment clicks, pops and even soft electronic distorsion I also experiment clicks, pops and even soft electronic distorsion whilst recording audio with my newly bought MOTU.

    By playing with the size of the audio buffers I can reduce those pain-in-the-ass noises but can't get completly rid of it.

    In Motu 's website they say that
    - one should make sure that his HDDs are fast enough
    - that the digital devices connected to the Motu are properly synch.
    - FW adapter is based on either TI or Lucent

    Well my HDD is kind of fast and I have removed all digital devices and my adapter is based on TI.


    I still get the clicks&pops.

    I posted here because the idea that same problems with differents hardware/platform may have similar origins.
    Thanks

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    Brainchild
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    RE: POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting') 2005/06/16 03:25:20 (permalink)
    Honestly it sounds like a hardware issue.

    Do you hava another sound card,onboard or whtever to hook up and see if it resolves the issue?If so you can warranty the soundcard,and hopefully solve the problem.

    New doesn't by any means guantee good.

    HTH

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    damballah
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    RE: POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting') 2005/06/16 04:11:44 (permalink)
    No I don't have another sound card and my MOTU Works fine with an IBook...

    All these clicks pops and dropouts tend to happen less frequently when I disable all XP Services unuseful for music production.
    Yesterday I install Windows Server 2003 on the same PC to see if I got any differences.
    Not really although i have less 'digital noises' with Service-cleaned Windows XP.
    I'm suspecting either:
    -Motherboard chipset (A7v8X)>>VIA KT400
    -RAM DDR 2100 SamSung
    -FW PCI ADAPTER although it's TI, the one recommended by MOTU
    -ATI RADEON AGP card

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    antar
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    RE: POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting') 2005/06/16 14:27:24 (permalink)
    Motherboard with VIA Chipsets are the worst components a mainboard could have.

    that is the common thing in all your set up.
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    damballah
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    RE: POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting') 2005/06/17 03:52:57 (permalink)
    Someone can explain why ?

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    RE: POPS and CLICKS (digital 'farting') 2005/06/18 22:46:52 (permalink)
    ry updating you Video adapter.



    You may use google to learn more about Via chipset mainboard and audio recording.


    http://pcbuyersguide.com/hardware/motherboards/VIA-Problems.html

    http://www.deinmeister.de/mvp3_zlt_e.htm
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