g_randybrown
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PRV shows Db in D major?
Is there a way to get PRV to display sharps and flats according to the key? IOW, I have a piece in D major (and inserted the key accordingly at bar 1) and I do indeed see F# but also Db instead of C#.  Surely there's a setting somewhere that will force the notes to display correctly right? Thanks very much, Randy
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/23 19:18:21
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g_randybrown
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/23 21:35:11
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/23 23:12:46
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I tried it, if you hover over the note then the keyboard shows Db, but if you double click the note to open it's properties it does show C#. So it looks like the midi note properties are diatonic but the representation on the keyboard isn't. I don't think there's a way to change that, it's probably just hard-coded into the program.
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g_randybrown
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/23 23:21:37
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tKx5050
I tried it, if you hover over the note then the keyboard shows Db, but if you double click the note to open it's properties it does show C#. So it looks like the midi note properties are diatonic but the representation on the keyboard isn't. I don't think there's a way to change that, it's probably just hard-coded into the program.
Thanks Steve, It would really surprise me if this is actually a bug after all this time (surely not by design). Does anyone else have a comment? Thanks again Steve, Randy
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/24 03:16:35
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If you change to any other key that uses C# does it work as expected? How about key of B? lot's of #s in that...
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/24 14:36:44
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Karyn
If you change to any other key that uses C# does it work as expected? How about key of B? lot's of #s in that...
No it doesn't, unfortunately. Seems strange to show sharps AND flats no matter what key is selected. Thanks Karyn, Randy
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/24 16:22:08
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I see that all the time in software or say lessons with keyboard display where it doesn't display diatonically. The PRV keyboard is just a locational reference for where you are in the PRV. They had to name the keys something. The little testing I did showed the actual note properties was correct. I suppose they could run a logic routine every time the mouse moves over the PRV to determine if it's sharp, flat, double flat or whatever but even then someone would disagree with their interpretation. Que sera, sera.
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/24 17:25:33
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tKx5050
I see that all the time in software or say lessons with keyboard display where it doesn't display diatonically. The PRV keyboard is just a locational reference for where you are in the PRV. They had to name the keys something. The little testing I did showed the actual note properties was correct. I suppose they could run a logic routine every time the mouse moves over the PRV to determine if it's sharp, flat, double flat or whatever but even then someone would disagree with their interpretation. Que sera, sera.
I see your point Steve and it hasn't really bothered me too much but was just curious if I was missing a setting somewhere or something. Thanks, Randy
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/24 18:18:40
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Enharmonics is something of an art. It is not just what key you are in but where the chords are going. I might not notate something the way you would, but we would each have our reasons. Sonar does enharmonics opposite of how I would in about 60% of the cases and I have to fix them all manually, but, in fairness, this would be very difficult to program. Example: If I am in the key of A and playing a D minor chord (very common), I would expect to see an F natural. Sonar will normally go with E#—which would be correct if I were playing a C# maj chord.  All that said, a Db in the key of D is pretty far off. Hard to imagine many cases in which you would want that! The ideal solution would be a showgirl assistant who makes me drinks and corrects all the enharmonics while I create hits that will live forever.
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/24 23:24:27
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The ideal solution would be a showgirl assistant who makes me drinks and corrects all the enharmonics while I create hits that will live forever.
I would take that even over a CW coffee mug!!!
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Re: PRV shows Db in D major?
2014/12/25 20:03:34
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Whomever decided it would be a good idea for notes to have two different names should have been whipped. Then again, I hear the Eskimos have 63,495 words for snow.....
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