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Pace of updates
How does everyone manage keeping up to date?
I have several DAWS, a gazillion plugins and stuff. How do you manage it all. Then of course making sure the new stuff works and doesn't mess up your system. Some plugins have a "check for update" option but this isn't a standard feature.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 06:25:38
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It's a long tedious process.
Every day I run my online installers 3 times...morning, afternoon, and evening.
I regularly also go through my plugin list and load the plugin and, if it has a
check for updates option I run that. Otherwise it's off to website to find the current
version and make sure it/s what I'm using.
Which makes me thankful for the companies that notify you of updates.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 06:29:04
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if it ain't broke don't fix it
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 06:30:41
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pwalpwal
if it ain't broke don't fix it
So you saying you never update unless it's to fix something?
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 06:45:18
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generally, i don't "just update", yes... for one i don't have the time, and if the tools do the jobs they're supposed to then why would i? currently i'm mid-way through a leisurely migration to a new lappy and i'm surprising myself at what i'm not missing... whoever needs "the very latest" anything? that's so silly...
if it ain't broke, fix it 'til it is!
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 07:26:49
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/05/31 10:35:48
Let me know when you get a bunch of those tools that just work and don't need some fixes. Lol
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 07:50:13
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seems like a stability question? but so far i've installed (useful/stable/convenient authorisation) so you might infer that these "just work lol" (at least for what i do):
presonus studio one 2 & updated to 3, ableton live 9/max 6, 112db eq & reverb, audio damage plugs, big tick rhino, blaukraut charlatan, bluearp, cakewalk z3ta+2, celemony melodyne, ddmf plugs, gforce mtron pro & minimonsta, gvst plugs, kirnu cream, martinic plugs, nomad factory isp plugs , ni, only reaktor & monark so far, plug'n'mix plugs, sknote plugs, sonimus plugs, stillwell plugs, toneboosters plugs, u-he plugs...
still on the todo list: voxengo, psp, discodsp, ni kontakt/guitar rig, wavearts, dmg, camel, linplug, korg, izotope, xils...
what will be installed next....?
now i'm not saying none of these have bugs, though i'm not hitting them, but at the same time don't fall for the "all software has bugs" blah because, while true-ish, bugs are usually there because of commercial development pressures and decisions, not because bugs are inherent to all software
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 08:10:16
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AD2 or example works, and always has for me. I found their was an update, and ran it from the installer. Then AD2 vanished form Sonar. Can't recall what I did to fix it, but I stumbled on a solution blindly and quickly, so no problem. When I had a look at the details, the update wasn't doing anything for my system, so didn't need to run it. So I'm in the 'If it ain't broke, don't fix it camp' Look for updates when something is not looking right. Sonar for instance is broke, so I run them every release. Rapture Pro is working for me, so I'll look at the fixes, but being a new release I'll probably run as it's likely to hold important stuff either way.
I don't really have a stack of stuff though, Applied Acoustic Systems and XLN are my main ones. So not much to keep track off really, I think they both email me too, AAS does.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 08:15:58
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Best to keep an eye out early on if it's a new plug-in/DAW as there will be fixes. That's common sense.
Must admit, I tend to do it if I see it or just on the off chance. I buy a lot secondhand, so it's usually gone through the cycle of updates. One install and update and it should be close to being up to date.
A lot of companies now email major update reminders. I think they all should do that anyway. It's in their interest to do so.
One advantage of still being on XP is that you can't update anything as it's nearly all for later versions and your system will combust if you try. I'd celebrate but I'm still trying to start my PC with a crank handle.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 08:27:37
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strikinglyhandsome1I buy a lot secondhand
hello me!
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 08:50:18
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☄ Helpfulby BobF 2015/05/31 10:19:06
mudgel
How does everyone manage keeping up to date?
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 10:13:19
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This is another good reason for trimming one's tool set down: makes it easier to keep track of updates. However, even though I've been making a conscious effort to limit my plugins, it's still a challenge and sometimes I go a month or more before accidentally finding out there's an update to one of my less-used items.
I, too, often rely on cclarry for the heads-up. Even when there's a vendor update notification in my in-box I'll still often read about it here first.
What's really needed is a central database, preferably one that the vendors themselves keep up-to-date. KVR would be the logical place to host such a resource. It would contain a list of products, their current version, the date the current version was released, and a link to the change log.
That last bit's important because not all updates are worth bothering with. Sometimes the only thing that's changed is they've added an AU or AAX version, or fixed a bug that only applies to FL Studio.
Mike, feel free to start that database!
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 10:20:37
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/05/31 10:33:49
Dave,
Some think cclarry is that database.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 10:24:44
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maybe the nsa could just make it public?
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 10:39:51
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First, always make sure you have a backup image file of your boot drive.
That way (no matter what happens), you can quickly/easily get back to a properly functioning DAW.
If you're in the middle of a critical project (or you're on a tight deadline), that's not the time to update/upgrade.
Bit has a very valid point about paring down the "toolbox".
That makes updating/upgrading a much simpler process.
Liken the situation to hardware:
Having numerous guitars/basses/keyboards is cool... but (to me) at some point the maintenance is more of a pain than it's worth.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 10:45:29
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bitflipper
This is another good reason for trimming one's tool set down: makes it easier to keep track of updates. However, even though I've been making a conscious effort to limit my plugins, it's still a challenge and sometimes I go a month or more before accidentally finding out there's an update to one of my less-used items.
I, too, often rely on cclarry for the heads-up. Even when there's a vendor update notification in my in-box I'll still often read about it here first.
What's really needed is a central database, preferably one that the vendors themselves keep up-to-date. KVR would be the logical place to host such a resource. It would contain a list of products, their current version, the date the current version was released, and a link to the change log.
That last bit's important because not all updates are worth bothering with. Sometimes the only thing that's changed is they've added an AU or AAX version, or fixed a bug that only applies to FL Studio.
Mike, feel free to start that database!
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 11:12:42
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cclarryEvery day I run my online installers 3 times...morning, afternoon, and evening That's really obsessive. I check every few weeks. There's really no need to check too often if the plugin isn't bugging out. The exception to this is Sonar but we know we're only getting updates at this point once a month and most of us are on here to see it anyway.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 11:14:54
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TerraSin
cclarryEvery day I run my online installers 3 times...morning, afternoon, and evening
That's really obsessive. I check every few weeks. There's really no need to check too often if the plugin isn't bugging out. The exception to this is Sonar but we know we're only getting updates at this point once a month and most of us are on here to see it anyway.
Not for plugins....for VI's and DAW's....Cake Command Center, Avid Installation Center, EastWest Installation Center, XLN Installation Center...etc... They are not very adept at keeping you posted on updates....
post edited by cclarry - 2015/05/31 10:21:15
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 11:19:48
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cclarry, you're a godsend 
"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 11:21:14
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Thanx Fleer! I work surprisingly hard at keeping everyone well informed...
and am happy to do it! Call it obsessive if you will...
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 11:23:19
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☄ Helpfulby BassDaddy 2015/05/29 18:01:17
Obsessive or not, I for one appreciate it.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 13:37:49
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"We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl" (Wish You Were Here)
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 17:55:39
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I have never received an update notice from NI, XLN, Toontrack or IK. I think I have had a few notices from Toontrack but never before I heard about it here and not at all consistent. Wouldn't it be great if,say, NI Service Center and the others had a "check for Updates" setting and how often and when to check (like 3 AM) and how often to check (Monday, Wed, Fri). How hard would that be to do?
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 18:46:35
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BassDaddy
Wouldn't it be great if,say, NI Service Center and the others had a "check for Updates" setting and how often and when to check (like 3 AM) and how often to check (Monday, Wed, Fri). How hard would that be to do?
You can put a NI Service Center event in Windows Task Scheduler to do exactly that.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/29 18:50:00
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pwalpwal
at the same time don't fall for the "all software has bugs" blah because, while true-ish, bugs are usually there because of commercial development pressures and decisions, not because bugs are inherent to all software
Refreshing to hear. Agree 100%
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/31 09:40:55
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Obsessive or not, I for one appreciate it.
As do I.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/31 10:15:30
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mudgel
How does everyone manage keeping up to date?
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/31 10:17:20
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Thanx guys..it's nice to know that it is indeed is appreciated...
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/31 10:24:43
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mudgel
How does everyone manage keeping up to date?
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CCLarry has been my source for news of new, non-Sonar releases for quite a while. I probably haven't said it yet, so "Thanks CCLarry!"
What's happening to my posts? I wrote one very similar to your BobF, and now it's gone. I've already had one notice that a post has been retrieved from the recycle bin. Who knew there was one of those? Anyway thanks Larry.
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Re: Pace of updates
2015/05/31 11:25:47
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BassDaddy
Wouldn't it be great if,say, NI Service Center and the others had a "check for Updates" setting and how often and when to check (like 3 AM) and how often to check (Monday, Wed, Fri). How hard would that be to do?
You can put a NI Service Center event in Windows Task Scheduler to do exactly that.
Thanks, I never put that together but, of course, you could do that. Thanks again.
post edited by BassDaddy - 2015/05/31 11:44:33
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