Pan function won't work

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2014/06/29 13:12:32 (permalink)

Pan function won't work

For some odd reason, my pan function doesn't work no matter what I do. It used to work - now it doesn't. I've tried bouncing to mono AND stereo tracks and neither works. Could it be my interface? I use an M-Audio ProFire 610. I'm not in offset mode - I checked this numerous times. Any ideas? Thanks all.
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    Beepster
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    Re: Pan function won't work 2014/06/29 13:18:51 (permalink)
    What behavior is it exhibiting? You just can't hear the change or is the Sonar graphical interface doing something weird? Make sure all tracks AND busses Interleave button is set to Stereo. I did this once.
     
    If that doesn't help then perhaps your hardware has indeed been set to somehow output mono. Can't help you there.
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    Re: Pan function won't work 2014/06/29 14:09:20 (permalink)
    Thanks, Beepster. I messed with my interface and managed to fix the problem. Boneheaded carelessness on my part. Thanks!
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    Re: Pan function won't work 2014/06/29 14:22:23 (permalink)
    Just out of curiosity and for the sake of the forum archives (in case someone with your interface experiences the same issue) what was the problem/fix?
     
    And as far as I'm concerned this audio stuff is so complex there are rarely true "boneheaded" moments. Just temporary oversights of what exactly the hundred or so darned things involved in a simple track are doing at one specific time or another. lol
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    Re: Pan function won't work 2014/06/30 09:51:26 (permalink)
    Oh sure - I'll post the solution. Well, it turned out the problem was the setting on my interface, which I mentioned is a M-Audio ProFire 610.  The software return settings on the interface for a corresponding track have to be set to pan hard right and hard left (see the attached screen cap).  So if I have a track set up for output to be received on 7/8 on ProFire software return, 7/8 have to be panned left and right. This enabled me to pan using Sonar for some reason as long as I have the track set to mono, which is fine.  I originally had these set straight up the center, so they wouldn't pan. I can't say I understand why this works, but it does. Yes, that stuff is SO freaking complicated. Thanks for making me feel better about my boneheadedness. :)
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    Re: Pan function won't work 2014/06/30 12:32:38 (permalink)
    Thanks. It does kind of make sense as stereo is just two mono signals. However you'd think even with the channels split as they are on the M-Audio you'd still get a stereo field with those channels centered because they should be outputting to only one speaker (left or right). IIRC I don't have to do that with my interface.
     
    I think there may still be an underlying "problem" perhaps with a bus' interleave setting or panning laws within Sonar. Could even be an effect causing it. I gotta be honest though I get easily confused with stereo vs. mono concepts and everything in between, especially when it runs through multiple steps like in a DAW setup.
     
    You may have some better luck tossing this question (with a link to this thread or describing the situation and including the pic) in the Techniques tab to get a better idea of whether you truly have found the solution or merely a workaround. With stereo field nonsense I think you can end up losing some spread if it's not set up right but I don't really know how or why because like I said... this stuff confuses me. There are a lot of hyper intelligent techno/audio whizzes running around down there who are great at these types of conundrums.
     
    But... if it works then cool. I just get a little obsessed with things I don't understand. lol
     
    Cheers.
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    Re: Pan function won't work 2014/06/30 12:39:47 (permalink)
    And I just had a thought. Maybe check your actual master outputs on the interface. Maybe somehow the signal is getting blended in a weird way before they hit the speakers/headphones. I know my Layla used to give me a hard time in this regard and it was very trying to get it to pan.
     
    I don't know your interface but I see that a) the Master is set to 3/4 and b) that there is a little button (which I think may simply be a fader link but IDK) that is not lit up like the others. Maybe check the path from the "Software Return > Analog Master > Speakers" to see if maybe something is going weird there.
     
    So yeah... not boneheaded at all. This shiz is really wacky sometimes.
     
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