Panning Problem

So your recoridng onto a Mono track and during playback, you cannot pan, Is that correct?
Cj

Is your mono track directed to your master bus and is your master bus directed to your main outs.

When you pan hard left or right, do you see the rack meter do the same?

now ill record down the center

This remark concerns me, because sonar doesnt control your signal when its being recorded.
What are you doing to make it dead center?

You mean you are plugged into the input, not the insert of the FW1884, don't you? Not that that would have anything to do with your problem, I wouldn't think. It just would be weird to plug the pre into an insert instead of an input...

this is becoming a problem, is there a key binding i may have hit or something?

According to this thread here: http://forum.cakewalk.com...mpage=1&print=true

They say that you should not use a TRS connector at the insert end according to the thread, but obviously you have it working, so it must not be crucial.

I was not aware that the line in would be wired in parallel like that and go through the Pre's. That is both unusual and interesting.

Again, sorry for the unrelated content. good luck solving your problem.

nprime


According to this thread here: http://forum.cakewalk.com...mpage=1&print=true

They say that you should not use a TRS connector at the insert end according to the thread, but obviously you have it working, so it must not be crucial.

I was not aware that the line in would be wired in parallel like that and go through the Pre's. That is both unusual and interesting.

Again, sorry for the unrelated content. good luck solving your problem.

yeah, i figured i should go with a unbalanced cable, but like you said, it's working...lol.

Yeah, bounce to a new track and see if it stays. Also , go back to where it last worked fine and REALLY triple check ALL those settings, something got tweaked recently. Oooorrr, reset your computer (save whatever) to an earlier date when it was working and see it it's your computer. Then just undo the restore. This stuff can drive ya nuts. Take notes of changes you make too.

yeah i done all of the above and then some, this is so annoying, hmm imma give it a break just make some music...try to tackle this tomorrow, ill keep yall posted. thank you for all the help

Could changing the interleave from stereo to mono on the Master do this?

When you say the pan doesn't work, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean that no matter where you have the pan controls the sound is always placed center field or do you mean it's panned to one side and panning the other results in silence/volume drop?

If it's volume drop/silence I'd double check the offset theory. Remember that if you've accidently put yourself in offset mode, made a change to the pan and then gone back to envelope mode, the change is still there even though it's not reflected in the pan position. The only way you can see that change is back in offset mode.

To check that do this.....

1. Enter offset mode.
2. Center the pan
3. Switch back to envelope mode.

If you mean the pan has no effect at all, I'm at a loss I'm afraid.

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Had the same problem, and more. Copying to a new track works, but it's a pain when you've got to replace 20+ tracks on something you've been mixing.

I've had my suspicions for a while, and my last project confirmed this.

We track through a digital console @ the studio where I work, and our track volumes are set @ 0db(like a tape machine), and since Sonar 6 we have been odd/even panning to get discrete mono tracks back to the console via ADAT(output are seen as stereo pairs).  I know we can use mono I/O now, but what about our older projects?

This panning causes weird happenings if you want to adjust it after recording, mainly the panning won't go back center. On another note, if a track is saved as hard panned  with a mono input, you can change the input to stereo, pan center, and make sure the interleave button is on stereo, but it will not take a stereo input signal, you have to make a new track(and in the frenzy of setting up in a timely fashion, one must go with what works). I just don't understand why?

Lately I have moved to mixing ITB @ my house and summing the stereo stems on the console(which is awesome, btw) as I live 30+ minutes from the studio, which is where this problem really started affecting my work flow.

The project I am currently working on has developed even more weird happenings, including volume, and what sounds like signal degradation.

My normal project work flow is start with a song and get it right, then once you are happy with the mix, copy the settings for the song to the next one you are going to mix(yes I only work this way when the tracks were recorded @ the same time and place) and start from there. I know that it won't be THE settings for that song and will need tweaks, but when I copied the settings from the first song I mixed to the second, my levels were outrageously distorted. So, i go back to the other song and notice my meters are peaking more than I thought.

I solo the kick drum just to see what the raw file sounds like(no plugins), and it is barely there even when set to 0db, and I know what I recorded it with(RE20->ISA220->Distressor, pretty fat, plus the drummer is a monster with a monstrous kit!), which is how I usually track a kick drum.

So, i make a new track, copy the audio and settings, and A/B the two. The audio on the new track @ the same settings stomps the original track @ the same settings. What would cause this? I know about offset mode, but this occurs regardless of offset mode, and the only way to fix it is to create new tracks to mix on. PITA.

Started another thread last night about this problem.

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=2149794&high=envelope+offset