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2015/07/18 02:26:07 (permalink)

Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love

Hello.  Long time since I have been here.  A remix of an old tune.  Hoping to get it right this time, but my mix lacks warmth.  I think.  Is it just me?
 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/18 03:56:01 (permalink)
Hi Sunny,
 
Interesting effect on the drums, although I don't think that the 128kbps bitrate allowed by SoundCloud is doing the hi-hat and cymbals any favours.
 
I like the song, it sounds a bit late Beetles Beatles to me, from what little I know of them. I think it is the cello that is making me think that.
 
I enjoyed listening,
 
cheers
 
andy
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/18 06:46:30 (permalink)
Nice minimalist production with a 60s feel.  Especially the cellos, very Beatles-esque.  You are making some nice recordings of your voice and acoustic guitar, with well done backing tracks.  Your production really focuses attention on the excellent singing you do.  Reminds me a little of Frank Black, from the Pixies.  But in a good way! :)
 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/18 06:48:57 (permalink)
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very Beatles-esque




Ha! Yeah, Beatles too...
 
I'll have to edit the typo in my post hahaha
 
(stoopid mistake)

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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/18 09:20:46 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby munmun 2015/07/18 12:18:02
The mix is okay, but those drums have a lot of high frequency energy that makes everything else sound a little dull. Tame them a bit, bring the guitar forward a bit and that should help. A little overall compression to glue everything together will help as well, just don't overdo it.
 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/18 12:11:53 (permalink)
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The mix is okay, but those drums have a lot of high frequency energy that makes everything else sound a little dull. Tame them a bit, bring the guitar forward a bit and that should help. A little overall compression to glue everything together will help as well, just don't overdo it.
 
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Thanks!  That's helpful.
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/18 14:41:31 (permalink)
Agreed, wrong context for the drums. The Chris Squire Bass Tone is not helping either.
 
It's kind of a half-Yes half-Hollies song. It's needs to lean one way of the other.
 
Aside from that it's a good song.
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/20 12:03:33 (permalink)
I think you're on to something here.  I agree that it sounds Beatlesque, like a lost recording.  I don't hear the drums as being that problematic, but a tweak or two and this will be a gem!  Good songwriting!

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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/20 12:16:40 (permalink)
Nice song, no argument there! Love the Beatles cello/string thing. Great topic, too!
 
I would consider doubling your vocal, or doing a parallel compression thing alongside it. You have a good voice but it could be presented just a tad beefier to help this song. if you have something like Soundtoys Microshifter, a little bit goes a long way.
 
I'm guessing that snare is a very conscious choice! That's a bold call! Just for fun you might try something drier, less reverb, less kind of like a trashcan lid. But I think you've chosen that particularly so good on ya.
 
Your singing is the strength, I'd just trick it up a little!
 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/20 13:08:14 (permalink)
Great to hear from you Sunny, really cool song. That effect on the snare was a bit of a surprise at first but grew on me as the song continued. With the other horn parts, panning guitar rhythms....I have no beef with those drums. Only nit I would pick would be the cello at about 1:40 may be a tad loud or dry. Another great composition and performance.  

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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/20 17:41:07 (permalink)
Good song and well sung.  I guess the rest of it is personal opinion, and mine is that the drums, snare in particular, feel like they're fighting with the rest of the track.  Some of it may be all the reverb, but I think the goal should be to make all the instruments sound like they were played in the same room.
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/23 00:14:14 (permalink)
Thanks everyone. Based on all the comments, I have taken another crack.  The drums should be less irritating to the ear I hope.  Let me know what you think.
 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/23 15:49:24 (permalink)
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/24 08:34:11 (permalink)
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Agreed, wrong context for the drums. The Chris Squire Bass Tone is not helping either.
 
It's kind of a half-Yes half-Hollies song. It's needs to lean one way of the other.
 
Aside from that it's a good song.




My friend Ed wrote what I was thinking, arrangement seems at odds with the song - I liked the song btw.

 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/25 12:33:25 (permalink)
I stuck with the bass.  Are the drums better?
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/26 12:21:20 (permalink)
Congratulations Sunny. This is now my favourite song. I love the whole vibe of the song. The horns and cello parts are awesome. Great choice of instruments and arrangement.
 
Like Andy said, it has a Beatlesque feel to it.
 
I think the song has a lot of warmth (I am listening on headphones right now). My only criticism would be about the bass. It sounds to harsh for me. Almost a slap bass with crunch? I would maybe try a softer/warmer bass track. I think that would sit in the mix better. And although the drums are good, it seems to me like something could enhance them. I like the kick a lot. I think the snare might sound too tinny to me.
 
Please take my advice with a grain of salt. I am certainly no expert.
 
Again, great song and I absolutely love it.
 
Cheers,
 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/26 23:00:07 (permalink)
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Congratulations Sunny. This is now my favourite song. I love the whole vibe of the song. The horns and cello parts are awesome. Great choice of instruments and arrangement.
 
Like Andy said, it has a Beatlesque feel to it.
 
I think the song has a lot of warmth (I am listening on headphones right now). My only criticism would be about the bass. It sounds to harsh for me. Almost a slap bass with crunch? I would maybe try a softer/warmer bass track. I think that would sit in the mix better. And although the drums are good, it seems to me like something could enhance them. I like the kick a lot. I think the snare might sound too tinny to me.
 
Please take my advice with a grain of salt. I am certainly no expert.
 
Again, great song and I absolutely love it.
 
Cheers,
 
Chad
 




Cheers!  I'll leave this one alone for now.  I'll have fresher ears in a few weeks.
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/27 11:27:36 (permalink)
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I stuck with the bass.  Are the drums better?


IMO, no. They seem the same to me.
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/27 11:47:43 (permalink)
Hi Sunny, interesting and original  tune and a nice one at that ; )
 
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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/07/31 14:56:03 (permalink)
I really like the song - for all the reasons stated above.  The arrangement works great too IMO.   Love the variety of instrumentation used, and the tremolo guitar parts are very cool. 
 
Mix-wise I agree with previous posts that the snare is a bit too much bottom mic "snares" and not enough top mic "pop", and that the bass is very Rickenbacker-ish and could use a "rounder" tone. The reverb you added on the tail of the cello works nicely.    But mix nits aside, it really is a great song. 

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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/08/01 10:23:55 (permalink)
I always like your stuff, Sunny.  The bass did seem a bit bright, or toAll in all it's good work, buddy.

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Re: Paradise is in the hearts of the ones you love 2015/08/01 12:43:01 (permalink)
Everything that needs to be said has been said, thanks for sharing.

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