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'Path to the Past' - collab
Hello folks, Here's a new song, borne of a collaboration between Heinz Karnitschar (Airmeki), Nick Pendergast (Opaque Slogan) and myself; PATH TO THE PAST The song was written by Heinz, after we chatted about doing a collab and I sent him a little guitar riff - he amazed me by coming back with a full-blown song out of that small beginning! We persauded Nick to contribute his excellent bass skills to this, and well, we hope you enjoy! (For the purposes of the project we call ourselves 'The Commonwealth' - hopefully there'll be more!) *Lead Vocals / Synthesizer / Sound FX/ Mixing - Heinz Karnitschar *Bass Guitar - Nick Pendergast *Lead Guitar / Rhythm Guitar - James Griffiths *Background Vocals - Anne Jarman, Danielle Massing, Kimberlee Massing
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RE: 'Past to the Past' - collab
2007/10/25 21:05:10
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Interesting tune. I'm diggin' Nick's reference to BB King's The Thrill Is Gone. I thinking that the vocal delivery could be a bit more direct, less dramatic, for example without the spoken narrative parts. I like the big chorus with the backing vocals. I like the guitar bits as well. I like the overall idea, maybe just tighten up the arrangement a bit.
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RE: 'Past to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 10:24:04
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Alright James! My biggest pic is the title post "Past to the Past". Path my friend! LOL. Ahhh, revenge is so sweet! I'm amazed at what came out of that bit of guitar playing! This is a wonderful tune that all of you did in every way. Great with the girls doing the backup vocals. Heinz, your flair for the theatrical shows here, and I know that's what you were shooting for in your singing. Nick, your bass playing is impeccable and a tone to die for! James,your guitar skills always amaze me. Your playing, style, and tone, seems to fit like a glove in all the songs you do. Nice job girls! Good composition and a good mix. Loved it!
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RE: 'Past to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 11:20:08
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Hehe  ...you got me Larry, bang to rights.....duly edited  Thanks a lot pal, but credit where credit's due, Heinz was the creative force behind this (he arranged the BGV parts as well), it's easy to sit back and come up with guitar parts at my leisure!
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RE: 'Past to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 13:22:33
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Hey dudes, excellent collab. Heinz as allways another beautifully composed song, not only the lyrics, your vocals and the BGV's and the mix wow "EXCELLENT" James your guitar work here is excellent as well I love the tone that you are getting. Nick what can I say as allways another great sounding Bass pattern it fits nice with the song. I know it takes lot's of time to come up with a good collab and you guys did an excellent job here. Congrats Gents......... Cheers.... Dave PS Remember Heinz is only on loan, I saw him first
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RE: 'Past to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 14:18:22
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great work as usual from you guys. this one's a bit weird, there's a mix of styles from u2 to gothic rock to krautrock...guitar is cool!!!
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 15:51:33
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This is so unbelievably bad that it's funny. You guys had to be really wasted to make this one. This is a riot.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 17:42:57
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Larry - thanks for the kudos! As always your time to listen and leave your feedback is highly appreciated. Dave - thanks for your praise, dude. No, don't you worry - I'm not gonna run away ... Mark - Glad you liked our tune. Appreciate your comments very much. Black Peter - you must be in constant pain, right? I mean, shooting yourself in the foot all the time, that must hurt, man! Thanks for listening Heinz.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 19:17:06
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This was a real treat to listen to. I especially like to bass part (agreed on the reference to the thrill is gone, but it works great here. I absolutely love the guitar work. Especially the background part (reminded me of the Police?). But I'm wanting to hear more of it.
Neat tune, very entertaining.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/26 22:48:40
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Very cool, lads, James, isn't it fun when a little idea blooms like that? Someone hears something in your idea and runs with it. Is that the infamous black acoustic guitar that sounds remarkably like a Les Paul?  Heinz, yeah you have a flair for the dramatic. A touch of the dark side here, eh? Love the bgv's. Nick, good to be hearing more from you lately. You've been quiet for a while. This is what I like about this place, hearing different talents combine, who would otherwise never have connected. ps. Heinz, looks like you might be joining James and me, among others, on our little friends' Christmas list. 
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/27 10:21:06
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Hey, thanks a lot Jim that's nice to hear. Hi Bob - never gonna live that one down... Yes, it was great to finally hear that echoey riff used in a song, Heinz did good! Cheers Ed, food for thought there, and thanks for the positives!
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/27 12:26:16
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James, Heinz and Nick- I loved this from the intro! the intro really grabbed me and made me listen! love the strings. bass sound is excellent! james - fantastic guitar as usual! loved that riff. heinz - vox fit perfect. what are you doing for the choral BGVs? man I want to know how you do that! I'd love to incorporate that on some of my stuff.
great job guys!
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/28 09:18:31
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Reece - thanks for the kudos, buddy. I'll send you a private email shortly, explaining a little bit how I did the BGVs. Yes, the Ladies did an awesome job with their voices - thus perking up the chorus big time. Thanks for your great comments, Reece.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/28 10:01:03
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Heinz Close my eyes, I’m going back in time.
Find those precious days we have lost.
Close my eyes, I want to make it right.
Let me walk on the path - to The Past Great Song....and BGVs (background chorus vocals) Now i go to ......future JF
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/28 18:57:31
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Hey Commonwealthers,
Nice tune. Great collab, the more I listen the more I appreciate the detail in the parts and the mix. Really like that guitar riff with the delays. Background vocals are just stunning in this. Really nice. Nice bells and synthy bits throughout the piece. Nice guitar lead break and cool chorusy arpeggios. Heinz you paint your music with such a grand and sweeping brush. Nice bass line in this, it really provides the foundation and groove for the piece. Drums are done well too, they really fit the piece. Nice work.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/29 06:35:57
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JF - thanks man! I like the lyrics too...  Hi Bill - many thanks sir I think Heinz did a cracking job with the mix on this, so much going on but you can hear it all. Glad you enjoyed it.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/29 15:06:16
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I'd like to join in to say thanks to everyone for the listen and the great comments! Thanks.
Heinz.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/30 11:13:16
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Ha ha...very ambitious project here guys. Why do I get a Vincent Price/Thriller vibe?... Overall I'd say its done very well...I'd like the drums to be a touch more upfront, but you've got lots going on here. Good solo at 3:07 James...well thought out. Nice job all! RLD
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/30 18:08:22
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Great job guys. I have to admit at first I thought whhaaattt in the world did Heinz do now!!! But it didnt' take long for the song to "hook" me and then I was into the intrigue of the melody and the vocals. Heinz, I would also like to know how you did those BGV, they sound really nice and are set kind of far off, yet very distinct. Congrats on great collab guys.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/31 19:39:11
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RLD - Thanks for tuning in. Vincent Price, eh? ... always liked that part of Thriller the best. I'm not sure where you got that from ... hmmm, the thunder maybe? Thanks for the listen and for your time to leave your feedback! Much appreciated. Duane - Whaaattt did he do now, eh? Was that a 'Urgh - what the heck was he thinking' - kinda reaction, or a 'Wow, he did it again' ? Thanks, buddy for your nice words, as always it's a pleasure to hear from you! I'll send you too a personal email re: BGVs ... Heinz.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/31 20:48:53
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Very cool, I like the mix of styles a lot. Can use some tighter vox here and there, esp with the string parts it sounds iffy, and I dunno about the chorus - maybe keep the vox lower, parlando. You cannot compete with the female reach anyway, and contrast can maybe work to your advantage, by sticking to the bassy parts. Just my 2 cents - I wish I was this far.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/10/31 22:04:21
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Fellas, I haven't read the other comments so bear with me if I repeat their observations.
Heinz, well written song. I like the synth that holds it all together. I think this is your best singing so far. You're getting a little more force into it and I think that helps you with accurate pitch (not like there was a problem before). You've gained some strength. You could perhaps get a bit more diaphragm into it, but this sounds good.
James, I always liked you guitar style. You're never over the top, taking a more melodic approach, and your rhythm tracks here are spot on. As usual, your lead work is very tasty.
Nick, I think that's a terrific bass line, somewhat understated but nice phrasing. I think it could come up a little in the mix to help drive the synth track.
Good work by the backup singers, they of angelic voice.
And Heinz, a good job with the mix too. Well done by everyone, a fruitful collaboration.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/01 09:14:54
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Thanks for all the kind words on the bass line and sound. I haven't heard the Ben E King track so my conscience is clear as far as the apparent plagiarizm goes. This has turned out really well with a nice, big, lush sound. Thanks to James and Heinz for inviting me along.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/02 06:22:59
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Thank you Mark, that means a lot to me, I do try and keep things tasteful (mainly 'cos I can't 'shred' anyway! )
Rob - thanks for the constructive crits, it's appreciated. Time you posted something new, surely? Nick - anytime sir, great working with you.
Roger (RLD) - thanks for kind words on the solo, praise indeed from a player like yourself
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/02 06:56:00
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Time you posted something new, surely? Yeah, been pretty busy, but working on a oldy Rammstein cover (Sonne), just have to put in the vox (German, jawohl) and some ebow solo stuff.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/02 08:57:10
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ORIGINAL: Roflcopter
... just have to put in the vox (German, jawohl) ...
Let me know if you need help with that ... Heinz.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/02 13:46:46
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Love that intro lick James, all your guitar parts... very tasteful. Bass sounds right on.
Very dramatic singing Heinz. Nice angelic backup vocals. Nice overall sound, if I had one suggestions it would be turn the drums up a bit.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/02 19:50:32
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ORIGINAL: airmeki
Let me know if you need help with that ...
Heinz.
Might take you up on that, although the lingo shouldn't really be a problem, being from next door.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/03 22:38:40
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Frank - Thanks for tuning in leaving us your comments. Always a pleasure to hear from you!
Heinz.
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RE: 'Path to the Past' - collab
2007/11/07 22:54:31
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The Commonwealth ! Nice catchy name! The music was good, the singing was good, the instrumentation was good, bye golly I think the whole darn song was good. What an excellent story and musical production. I think your all trying to give Pink Floyd a run for the money. You could darn near cash in on this one. Very, very excellent project! Great work from the trio!! Thanks for doing this and sharing. John
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