Pentagon I vocoder routing in P5?

very sexy

,,,oh,,, really,,,,,,these soft synths,,,liike,, do have a way ,,about them,,,,,, anyways ,,in p5,,,just insert pentagon as normal ,,,, import your vocal ,,and place in the pentagon's track,"lane,,, or whatever ya call, it,,,,,,,, set "voice modulator to ,,,'on in pentagon,,,,,,,,triggger a midi note on your controller,,,, as the vocal is playing,,,,, sexy,,,, indeed,,,,,,, you could also create a 'track layer",,,,,,, and insert a ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,midi pattern to trigger the vocoder

Hmmmm, at work, not at workstation, so sexy.......

Is any synth I own capable of doing this????

The credit card is SMOKIN, my wallet is broken, all them synths I got ... are any sounds spoken??

Dimension Pro
Z3ta+
P5 Synths
Sonar Synths
Sytrus

mcg

I got the Pentagon I working in vocoder mode in Sonar,

Mycranium,

I saw this trick demoed at a recent Sonar6 Clinic but couldn't duplicate it bac at the studio.

What I THINK I saw was...

Load an Audio Track with some vocals
Bring the Pentagon into the efects bin for that track
Enable the Vocoder "switch"
Play midi input as track is playing back.

but for me - all audio dies as soon as I bring the Pentagon into the FX bin of the Audio track.

Is there something I'm missing? If not - could you just list the exact steps you used to get this working?

Much appreciated...

Ted Chmura III - Composer
TC3 Music
Ludlow, MA

ORIGINAL: TC3

Mycranium,

I saw this trick demoed at a recent Sonar6 Clinic but couldn't duplicate it bac at the studio.

What I THINK I saw was...

Load an Audio Track with some vocals
Bring the Pentagon into the efects bin for that track
Enable the Vocoder "switch"
Play midi input as track is playing back.

but for me - all audio dies as soon as I bring the Pentagon into the FX bin of the Audio track.

Is there something I'm missing? If not - could you just list the exact steps you used to get this working?

Much appreciated...

Ted Chmura III - Composer
TC3 Music
Ludlow, MA

There are several potential factors in getting thiis to work, so I'll try to cover everything I can think of.

Make sure you set the output of the midi track to the correct instance of Pentagon (if you have multiple instances). You need both the presence of audio data in the track that has Pentagon inserted in the FX bin (it can be live from an audio input or it can be a clip in the track - if it is too quiet it won't trigger the sounds) AND midi notes in the midi track (which again can be data in the track or midi notes played live through the midi track's input). If both of these conditions are met and your routing is correct it should work. You won't get any output wherever there is NOT a midi note "on." Pitch is determined by the midi note values, not by the source audio.

You will not hear the sound of the audio in the audio track under any circumstances - it is only used to "drive" the sound production of the synth, so don't expect that to be coming through (unless you bypass the synth in the FX bin). [On a side note, you can put the audio in an additional track and mix it with the vocoder track. This is especially cool for harmonizing - you can compose a note line for the vocoder via midi that is different than the pitches in the audio track - and, as in my current project, if you're using a percussion track to trigger the vocoder you can get some really cool results by mixing it with the source audio in a different track.]

A couple other thoughts - in Pentagon, make sure you select a patch that has a fast enough attack. If you have a slow attack and the audio data that's triggering the sounds is stacatto (i.e. has transient high amplitudes with mostly low amplitudes), the patch may not attack fast enough for the sound to develop before the audio transient decays. Midi note velocity has an effect as well, but that would only cause no output if the values were extremely low.

Once you get it working try turning the formant filter "on" in the same selector where you set the vocoder on/off. With the formant filter on you can enable the "drive" section of the synth and use gain to adjust the formant. It emphasizes the vocoder effect.

HTH
-Mike