Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit

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2010/03/28 10:06:28 (permalink)

Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit

Okay. I took the plunge and went Win-7 64-bit. I did a clean install of Sonar 8.5.3 on a new machine. All other plug-ins that came with 8.5 appear to load and work, except for Pentagon-1. I get:
 
    Failed to insert soft synth.
    The synth may not be properly installed.
 
I tried re-installing 8.5 because of this and it failed after both installs. Is this a sign of an incompatible plug-in under 64-bit?

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    KenB123
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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/03/29 08:47:50 (permalink)
    (bump) Sorry!
     
    Somebody must be running 64-bit and 8.5 and can confirm this or not on their system?
     
    Much appreciated. Thanks.

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/03/29 17:53:36 (permalink)
    It's working fine here in Windows 7 x64 on SONAR 8.53.  I verified it in both the 32-bit and 64-bit versions of SONAR. 

    I'm trying to think of some ideas on what it could be, but I'm a little stumped.  Maybe bumping this up will trigger someone else's memory.  It's a DXi synth, so it may not have registered properly with Windows when you installed it.  First verify that it shows in the DXi list in plug-in manager and doesn't show up under VSTi's.

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/03/29 19:25:06 (permalink)
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    It's a DXi synth, so it may not have registered properly with Windows when you installed it.  First verify that it shows in the DXi list in plug-in manager and doesn't show up under VSTi's.
    Yes. It is under DXI listed as: rgc:audio Pentagon-1
     
    Hmmm. At least it works for you. I will try Cakewalk Support unless someone provides a solution.


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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/03/29 20:06:54 (permalink)
    Yeah, that's how it's listed for me as well.  Good luck and I hope they get you sort out!

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/03/30 19:05:42 (permalink)
    Cakewalk promptly responded to my tech support inquiry and asked me to launch Sonar in Administrator mode (i.e., right click on Sonar launch icon and select 'Run As Administrator'). That seemed to do the trick. Pentagon started with no problems.
     
    Now how can I get rid of this Administrator stuff? I don't want to have to do this right-click exercise everytime I launch Sonar.

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/03/30 19:35:56 (permalink)
    Ahhh... should have known that was it.  I think there is a way to set up the shortcut so that it will always run in Administrator mode.  I believe you right-click the shortcut and look for an Advanced tab or button or something like that.

    I don't worry about it because I disabled UAC on my DAW and that takes care of most of the Administrator type issues.  Some are hesitant to do that, but I only use that computer for making music, so there's not much danger in doing that.  Some don't recommend it if you also use the computer for surfing the Internet and email, etc.
    If you want to go that route, go to Control Panel, User Accounts, User Account Control and slide the slider all the way down.

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/03/30 19:55:36 (permalink)
    Genghis,
     
    You got it. Right-click -> Properties -> Advanced. Simple enough.
     
    Thanks!

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/09/09 13:03:45 (permalink)
    Same here.  Thanks for the tip.

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2010/09/10 16:30:14 (permalink)
    That gets the plug loaded for me, but whenever I try to route pentagon as a vocoder, it kills my audio engine within 2 minutes. 

    Haven't been able to get that resolved. I'm hoping to try the vst version and see if that works better.


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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2011/06/09 14:35:37 (permalink)
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    That gets the plug loaded for me, but whenever I try to route pentagon as a vocoder, it kills my audio engine within 2 minutes. 

    Haven't been able to get that resolved. I'm hoping to try the vst version and see if that works better.

    Did you (or anyone) ever get this sorted?  Same problem here.  Yes, am running as administrator.

    The Pentagon I.dll file is in the Pentagon I folder, version 1.5.0.0 with Date modified (under the properties>details tab of 09/06/2006.  I tried a reinstall of just this one synth (from downloaded upgrade), and while it seemed to install files, they're all located and dated as before.

    Any help appreciated.

    thx,  Ron
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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2012/11/27 11:42:50 (permalink)
    Where is still another possibility to run Pentagon I on Win7 64 bit without running Sonar X1 as administrator:

    Open regedit.exe
    Go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\rgc:audio Software\Dxi\Pentagon I
    Right click on the Pentagon I folder and select permissions
    Set the permission for group users to allow full access and click ok

    Now I can start Sonar X1 without running as administrator and I can also use Pentagon I.
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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2012/11/27 12:17:57 (permalink)
    There's a much safer way - right click the Sonar exe, click on Properties > Compatibility mode. You can choose there to ALWAYS run Sonar as Administrator

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2012/11/27 16:45:52 (permalink)
    I just tried this last night and saw the same thing the OP did.
    I wonder if the trick I have been using of right-clicking the folder and changing the security to "alow" all users to modify the contents will work here.
    I will try this today and let you guys know.

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    Re:Pentagon-1 & Win-7 64-bit 2012/11/27 17:21:16 (permalink)
    No, that didn't work so I guess I'll have to run Sonar as an administrator to use Pentagon.

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