Perfect Space VS Altiverb

given using quality IR, is there really a difference between the two? Shoot, Altiverb is selling alone for about the cost of Sonar8PE.

Personally I like Perfect Space and the IR that have been available to us from a very kind forum member here sounds great... at least to these ears.

That's kinda what I figured.

But $400 sounds kinda excessive for some IR. But I suppose I really need to hear some in my own studio to make that assumption.

I thought some of the [free] Lexicon ones offered here (in past threads) were pretty amazing

Has anyone tired the waves IR-1? And how does it compare to Altiverb 6?

I have tried the Waves IR's and they kick boots, but i have not Tired them as you said.. They sound great. I dont have altiverb, so i cannot compare
The thing with Impulse reverbs is that they are all good. They have there own uses. Ill use Perfect space for some tracks and Waves IR for others. Its up to interpitation from each song and track

here's my book report about stereo and true stereo:

http://harmoniccycle.com/hc/sounds/mp3/Kalimba_convolution_reverb.mp3

ORIGINAL: MatsonMusicBox

Perfect Space vs Alti Verb is not a fair comparison. You should be comparing Pristine Space (Perfect Space's big brother) to Alti-verb.

Perfect Space is not a true stereo convolution reverb. The others are (including IR-1 too)

I have been trying to discover the difference between PerfectSpace and Pristine Space. Pristine sound better in its demo, but I can't quite explain why. In any case, I think I will be upgrading to the Voxengo version soon.

see next ....

Hey Mike - what about the differences when a mono source is being fed into the two? The stereo source being audible in the left or right (pitch dependant) makes it hard to tell if a mono track would have the same apparent difference. Can you give a mono example (with the stereo vs. mono treatment of course)

Mike I remember your thread on this subject. It was outstanding work you did. I learned a lot. Those asking about this stuff would do well in finding that thread and reading up on what was found out.

... how do I upgrade to Pristine Space? Or do I have to purchase the full version?

Ok, thanks.

The Irony is that (at least in ver 7 ) , I found some nice stereo pair IR's marked L and right . omni and cardioid. I guess they were for putting reverb in one side cause thats all you can do with them using perfect Space.

The true stereo thing ( or dual mono , as it's called in my hwd box) is nice for panning , but it's not like perfect space is total chopped liver .......: how long ago was it that a convo reverb like that INCLUDED with your DAW was a pipe dream ??????

ORIGINAL: dmbaer

Are IRs program specific?

Most programs use basic sound files with familiar formats. PC apps use .wav files and Altiverb (I believe) uses .aiff.

The I.R.s you downloaded are .wav files. each one is an "impulse" that IIRC were produced using a sweep method and a special deconvolution program that converts a recorded sweep into an impulse reminiscent of a gunshot.

So for all intents and purposes the IRs can be used by most programs.

The diffrence between Stereo and True Stereo is that the True Stereo method uses 2 different stereo IRs... one for the left and for the right of your mix.

The effect sounds different... take a quick listen to the .mp3 above.

Perfect Space will only do stereo.

If you have extra IRs (hopefully collected just for True Stereo) you can use Pristine Space as well as other apps to get the "True Stereo" effect.

Pristine Space will also let you do sophisticated multichannel surround with mutliple IRs.

That's a very basic run down.

best regards,
mike

You need two stereo IRs to have the True Stereo effect.

Many collections have a left, center, right examples to choose from... e.g. Perfect Space came with some. You just have to look thru each collection.

ORIGINAL: CJaysMusic

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I've recently read people use 1 reverb for Early Reflections than it's sent to another bus which has reverb tail or a bigger hall reverb is added.

just make to sends on the tracks and 2 bus's with one reverb on each bus. soanrs console view is just like an analog mixer. Or you can have one send going to one bus withone reverb and then make a send on that bus to another reverb.
Cj

This sounds like a work around to using both the L and R sides of the convolution files. I may have to give this a try. Thanks.

BTW - WizooVerb W2 operates in true stereo as well. Now sells through M-Audio I believe. I have and I like it.

I think this may be the tread:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=1423225&mpage=1&key=