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Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments

There is an article in the April 2014 edition of Physics Today (pp. 35-40) entitled "Evaluating musical instruments" by D. Murray Campbell (Professor Emeritus and Senior Honorary Professorial Fellow in the school of physics and astronomy at the University of Edinburgh, Scotland).
 
I am still working my way through it, but the sections on piano and violin I have found quite interesting.  The article is not overly technical or mathematical.  Should be a good read for physical modellers.
 
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/14 14:14:14 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby wgdevanna 2014/04/14 14:14:43

 
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/14 14:17:39 (permalink)
Fantastic!  Thanks for posting the link.

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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/14 16:09:56 (permalink)
There are quite a few decent books about this sort of thing. Some are properly academic/scientific works (almost all on classical instruments because that's what gets funded) that, though the real deal, are not what I'd call friendly reading.
 
 
But this one, though it's sort of on building your own (non-traditional) musical instruments, has good and not ridiculously technical descriptions about how instruments "work":
 
http://www.amazon.com/Mus...on-ebook/dp/B0058DW4BM

 In order, then, to discover the limit of deepest tones, it is necessary not only to produce very violent agitations in the air but to give these the form of simple pendular vibrations. - Hermann von Helmholtz, predicting the role of the electric bassist in 1877.
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/14 18:00:07 (permalink)
 
Fascinating article Gregg, good find!

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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/14 21:51:17 (permalink)
Wow, this is good...  (Finally having a chance to read the article.)
 
Two take-aways so far:  The first is that sympathetic vibrations contribute to the overall performance (sounds obvious, but you KNOW that digital keyboards don't model that feature).  The second is how much the interaction between an instrument and the musician contributes to the perceived quality of the instrument by the musician (another area that most digital keyboards are weak in). 
 
Ok, on to violins!  (I wonder if there will be any sax to go with the violins?  )

 
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/14 22:05:54 (permalink)
"Cross-Modal Interference" - Good name for a band. 

 
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/15 02:26:56 (permalink)
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"Cross-Modal Interference" - Good name for a band. 


Exactly the hidden meaning of "The CHB".
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/15 02:34:03 (permalink)
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"Cross-Modal Interference" - Good name for a band. 


Exactly the hidden meaning of "The CHB".




I thought that was Cross-Dressing Interference. 
 


 
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/15 10:56:19 (permalink)
Dat tu brutay
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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/15 11:04:45 (permalink)
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 I am still working my way through it, but the sections on piano and violin I have found quite interesting.  The article is not overly technical or mathematical.  Should be a good read for physical modellers.
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There was, somewhere else, an article that also compared the sound of the Stardivarious with the modern violins, and it's been proven that modern violins are just as good. I really wanted to see them use someone like jean Luc Ponty to test these, but they used folks from various orchestras and such, I think, and they could not tell the difference.
 
The modern electric violin should be substantially superior in sound ability anyway!

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Re: Physics Today - Evaluating Musical Instruments 2014/04/15 13:50:04 (permalink)
^^^
There's brass I do not want to play!
 
Having been a tuba player, I can tell you that the psychology of playability (ability to play?) is based largely on the perception of how well constructed (or branded) the instrument is.  I always prefered the Meinl Weston with rotaries to the Miraphone.

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