Piano Roll Controller Pane showing CC data other than velocity

apparently these things are called "lanes" in the controller pane (the feature being called "Multiple Automation Controller Lanes")

I've read the documentation on the matter, and still cannot figure out why so many lanes are always popping up everytime I open up the PRV. I've tried the various options in the "Show/Hide MIDI Event Type picker" as well as the "MIDI Event Type picker" with no luck. Is there anyway I can completely disable this new "lanes" feature?

thanks!!

Ok update, I found info in a lot of the controller lanes. I erased that data and then clicked minus on those lanes, and the lanes would still be gone when I re-opened the pane.
Now, the 2 left still there, I cant find data in the lanes to delete, so minus doesnt make them go away when re-opening.

The manual aint giving me the answer. Hmm...

Sometimes I get 3 or 4 lanes just for foot pedal data! (depending on which channel the foot pedal data happens to be on when I punch in)

So I take it nobody knows how to permanently remove them? Susan migh know. She is a big midi person from what I gather.

Nobody knows a true fix to this problem?

In my experience, I only get lanes for controller data that exists and yes, they come up automatically each time you open the PRV even if you've used the 'minus' sign to close them previously.

If you think you don't have controller data for a lane that is showing up, you probably just aren't seeing it. Go into the event list and look for it.

There should be an option to "remember" what lanes you have open or closed when you open a PRV window. If there is already this option, I'd like to know about it.

You should see what happens when you use Garritan Jazz and Big Band. Many of the nuances of the library are controlled by different CCs. When I open piano roll, I have a lot of work to do to get it back into usable shape. I now just minimize the window rather than closing it.

Cakewalk, can ya chime in on this thread or simply is it a known situation?

I know I'm jumping on this thread a bit late, but this 'controller lane' behavior has irritated the heck out of me, too.

I HAVE discovered one workaround, and that is to always open the PRV window with a hotkey, and never close it. So, in other words, I use hotkeys to switch back and forth between the PRV, TrackView, and ConsoleView -- never closing those windows, just letting the new window which pops up when I press the hotkey take the forefront. Without the PRV ever closing, it remains with whatever controller lanes you've allowed to be there and changes instruments according to what you have selected in the trackview or the inspector side bar thingy.

Hope this helps.

Mahlon

Hey guys,

Yes, when the PRV is opened, a lane is created for each unique type of event (plus velocity) found on the track(s) opened in the PRV. I can see how that would be a problem when opening the PRV for clips that have lots of nuance CC data. Currently there is no mechanism for the PRV to remember which lanes are showing between opening and closing the PRV. It's something we could consider implementing in the future. The PRV DOES remember which lanes are showing between save/load of the project if the PRV is open when you save. In the mean time, minimizing rather than closing the PRV might be the best workaround when dealing with tracks with very disparate event types.

Back on this topic.... is there anyway to have the controller pane remain at the same height when you re-maximize the PRV window? Currently everytime I maximize the PRV window, the controller pane (lanes) default to a set height and NOT the size to which I had just vertically expanded it before I minimized the view. Cakewalk, PLEASE make the controller pane more user friendly.

Thanks!
Mahlon