Picture Cache - HUGE

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2011/02/01 20:24:54 (permalink)

Picture Cache - HUGE

There is nothing on my 500 gig drive but the OS, SONAR X1a and the three previous versions of sonar. I have just noticed that the drive has 18% free space left. The audio is on a seperate drive. THe picture cache has tons of files in it. Many from old dead sessions. Can the picture cache be emptied? Any clues to what else might be eating the HD space? Any reson to leave version 7 , 8 & 8.5 on the PC? FX etc.

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    JonD
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/01 20:32:05 (permalink)
    Yes, you can empty the picture cache (unless X1 is somehow different in that regard.  I'm still on 8.5).
     
    As far as keeping older versions of Sonar, that's up to you.  Personally I'd keep 8.5 and dump the older ones... especially if you're having a disk space issue. 
      

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/01 22:35:32 (permalink)
    How many times have you used system restore? Around 200meg each time you use it

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/02 02:05:51 (permalink)
    I would absolutely dump and clean out every version of SONAR previous to 8.5.

    The picture cache can certainly be deleted. The picture cache will be rebuilt for a particular project when it is opened the next time.

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/02 03:02:48 (permalink)
    How many times have you used system restore? Around 200meg each time you use it


    Most users will not know the answer to that question. By default restore points are created automatically on a schedule and when certain operations (most commonly installation of programs or drivers) are performed. You can limit the amount of space available for restore points. http://mintywhite.com/windows-7/7maintenance/change-limit-system-restore-windows-7/ Once that space is filled new restore points replace old ones.
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/02 12:49:17 (permalink)
    According to the Sonar Tech clean the Picture Cache regularly as it will use gigs of memory on your HD.
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/02 18:48:53 (permalink)
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    I would absolutely dump and clean out every version of SONAR previous to 8.5.

    The picture cache can certainly be deleted. The picture cache will be rebuilt for a particular project when it is opened the next time.


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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/02 19:18:58 (permalink)
    would absolutely dump and clean out every
    Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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    I would absolutely dump and clean out every version of SONAR previous to 8.5.


    Could you please elaborate Brandon? 


    In particular, "dump"? Do you mean uninstall using the Cakewalk uninstall program or using Windows uninstall? Or?


    "clean out"? I don't know what that means? Ajax? Pressure washer? Clorox? 


    how about the registry?


    Reason I ask is, I still have Pro Audio 9.03 installed (and Sonar 4). Mostly because I've still got tons of things in *.wrk format, and the migration of *.wrk to *.cwp has always been less than desirable. So, If I need something from a wrk file, I have to export all the waves from Pro Audio and import to Sonar.


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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/03 04:20:46 (permalink)
    1. Leave the registry alone
    2. Navigate (in Windows Explorer) to the picture cache folder
    3. DELETE every file in the folder 
    4. Use the Sonar "Uninstall Program" utility to remove previous versions
    5. Again, in Windows Explorer, delete all remaining folders & references to previous Sonar installations
    6. Read this: http://www.digifreq.com/digifreq/discuss/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1106 for instructions on how to safely remove unwanted registry entries

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/03 10:12:35 (permalink)

    Sorry I've highjacked the thread. As, I understand how to delete picture Cache files. To the OP, just delete them.

    As far as uninstalling previous Cake versions,
    The problem for me when uninstalling anything in Windows is how stupid the uninstall program seems to be.
    what usually happens during a typical 'uninstall' where there are related applications is that, as the uninstall progresses, little windows pop up saying something like 'this is a shared file, do you want to delelte it'. 

    Usually, I say 'No' . But, by saying no I may be fragmenting something which in turn screws something else up. (like the registry will always be looking for whatever it is I delete/uninstall)
    But, saying yes to the pop ups may cause worse problems (if any).

    Plus, by deleting all traces of previous versions, I don't know which plugs or synths would be lost along the way. 

    So, bottom line is, I'm too chicken to uninstall anything.

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/03 10:32:14 (permalink)
    The question that comes to mind... does X1 have an option to clear picture cache file upon exit? Like Internet Explore does?  Would that be something to consider if it doesn't? 

    Edit - I'm powering up my notebook to check if that is an option... Found under configuration settings  - PicCacheMB set to 500 MB. Would changing this to a lower number impact performance?
    post edited by Jumbicat - 2011/02/03 10:45:34

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/03 10:55:47 (permalink)
    timidi 

    So, bottom line is, I'm too chicken to uninstall anything.

    Help..
     
    That's how I get too :)
     
    Doing some house keeping isn't a bad thing though. If you uninstall old versions and accidentally zap a plug in you use regularly, you can always get that back if you have the original disks. Just do a custom install, and only choose the plug in you want. The hardest part is knowing what plug in came from which version.

    I only keep the two latest versions of Sonar installed at any given time, but I'm sure I have some old plugs in there (ie: timeworks)

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/03 11:56:02 (permalink)
    Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk
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    I would absolutely dump and clean out every version of SONAR previous to 8.5.

    I'm really surprised to see this advice posted without any caveats or details. It's well-established that uninstalling older versions of SONAR can take shared content with it that new versions are still using, even if you answer "no" to all the shared files prompts. I once did a successful uninstall of 8.0 to prove that an 8.5 install from download would continue working without it, but I had to back up all the Shared folders, and restore lost content after the uninstall to get everything back.
     
    If you back up and restore the shared content, older versions can be safely uninstalled, but it's hardly worth the trouble for the small amount of disk space saved and the loss of access to older versions when you get errors opening or editing old projects in newer versions.
     
    Also, it's necessary to manually remove registry branches and AppData content to really get things completely cleaned up, providing more opportunities for making costly mistakes.
     
    IMO, it's just not worth the trouble and the risk unless maybe you're running an SSD with space at a premium.
     
     


    post edited by brundlefly - 2011/02/03 11:57:23
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/03 13:44:04 (permalink)
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    I would absolutely dump and clean out every version of SONAR previous to 8.5.

    I'm really surprised to see this advice posted without any caveats or details. It's well-established that uninstalling older versions of SONAR can take shared content with it that new versions are still using, even if you answer "no" to all the shared files prompts. I once did a successful uninstall of 8.0 to prove that an 8.5 install from download would continue working without it, but I had to back up all the Shared folders, and restore lost content after the uninstall to get everything back.
     
    If you back up and restore the shared content, older versions can be safely uninstalled, but it's hardly worth the trouble for the small amount of disk space saved and the loss of access to older versions when you get errors opening or editing old projects in newer versions.
     
    Also, it's necessary to manually remove registry branches and AppData content to really get things completely cleaned up, providing more opportunities for making costly mistakes.
     
    IMO, it's just not worth the trouble and the risk unless maybe you're running an SSD with space at a premium.
     
     


    Yes you do need to manually remove registry branches (less important) and definitely AppData content to get things completely cleaned up. Unless you're running a good sized system drive the amount of space in total can be significant.

    I guess I don't see the risk the same as you, but perhaps I was a bit hasty in my response and could have offered some more explanation. Unless we're talking about going back to versions that perhaps included the TImeworks stuff I'm not really sure what's going to get removed that would mess anything up.

    For instance I just had a system where I removed both 8.5 and 8.0 and didn't experience any problems with projects nor could I see any changes to any shared folders. The content in these folders generally stays the same from version to version. What did you find got ripped out? Either way, saying "no" should safeguard this and the worst case scenario is you install a particular plugin or element from the older DVD, which to me is cleaner than having so many version of SONAR on a particular computer.

    It just seems to me that having 5 versions of SONAR on a system is just a bit messy. No harm done in doing so, but I personally wouldn't do it. I'll keep maybe one older version, but that's my cutoff.
    post edited by Brandon Ryan [Cakewalk] - 2011/02/03 13:54:58

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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2011/02/03 14:39:05 (permalink)
    I seem to remember some posts of problems removing 8.0 and leaving 8.5. Things 8.5 needed were tied to 8.0.
    Or maybe it was 8.3 instead of 8.5.
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2016/10/23 15:31:24 (permalink)
    location of picture cache folder?
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2016/10/23 15:33:38 (permalink)
    the path is set in SONAR Preference > File > Audio Data "Picture Folder"
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2016/10/23 15:34:26 (permalink)
    never mind, found it...
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2016/10/23 16:18:01 (permalink)
    You can set the maximum size of the picture cache. Once this is reached, the oldest files are deleted to make way for the new. There's a setting in the AUD.INI file called PicCacheMB that sets the maximum. I think the default is 500MB. This can be changed in Preferences/Audio/Configuration File in SPlat. From memory this setting has been around quite a while so should apply to older versions of Sonar (although the way to change it might be slightly different).
     
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    Re:Picture Cache - HUGE 2016/10/23 18:49:40 (permalink)
    Just thought I would mention that while the subject of the thread is certainly valid - the thread is from 2011, until the last couple of posts.
     
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