Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. RESOLVED

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2015/02/11 05:01:00 (permalink)

Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. RESOLVED

9 Tracks in project 8 are frozen. Quad Core 4, 4 GB Ram. External sound card Focusrite Scarlett 2i4. Starts off with Sonar Platinum (Not responding) along with a box which say Converting. 1 minute 30 Seconds later the project opens. Should point out this is after the computer has been started up i.e cold start LOL Not sure what it is converting considering 8 out of the nine tracks are frozen?
 
 
In another DAW the same project but with no frozen tracks and numerous examples of Ozone (CPU Hogs) starts under the same circumstances in 10 Seconds. Yes comparisons are odious and yes we are not talking like for like.
 
Any help appreciated.
 
 
post edited by Gerry - 2015/02/11 09:30:18

 
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 06:12:44 (permalink)
    What is it like when the tracks aren't frozen? You mention that it only takes 10 secs in another DAW when tracks not frozen. You're comparing apples and oranges. What Sonar is converting is all the frozen tracks.

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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 06:24:31 (permalink)
    mudgel
    What is it like when the tracks aren't frozen? You mention that it only takes 10 secs in another DAW when tracks not frozen. You're comparing apples and oranges. What Sonar is converting is all the frozen tracks.



    OK I'll give it a try but surely a frozen track should be saved frozen not unfrozen on save then refrozen on start up? 

     
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 06:34:54 (permalink)
    Same project no frozen tracks in Platinum took 1 minute and 50 seconds to load. Oh and I still got the box with converting in it so the question is what is it converting as the project is all audio no midi.

     
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 06:54:05 (permalink)
    I'm not sure. Perhaps the project is corrupt in some way. I'm sure some others will be along momentarily and offer you further help. I'll have a look through the guides and see if there's something I can dig up.

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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 07:20:25 (permalink)
    It sounds like the tracks are at a different bit rate/sample size than the project. That's the reason for the "converting" message.
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 07:49:17 (permalink)
    mudgel
    I'm not sure. Perhaps the project is corrupt in some way. I'm sure some others will be along momentarily and offer you further help. I'll have a look through the guides and see if there's something I can dig up.

     
    Thanks Mike for the helping hand.

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    It sounds like the tracks are at a different bit rate/sample size than the project. That's the reason for the "converting" message.


    Thanks Leadfoot checking it now I will get back with more info.

     
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 08:29:48 (permalink)
    If you can upload the project somewhere I can take a look at it. Its hard to say without knowing exactly what is in the project. Some troubleshooting you can do is to open the project in safe mode. Then try skipping plugins and see if it loads faster. By a process of elimination you may be able to find whats causing the slow load.

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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 08:46:38 (permalink)
    Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk]
    If you can upload the project somewhere I can take a look at it. Its hard to say without knowing exactly what is in the project. Some troubleshooting you can do is to open the project in safe mode. Then try skipping plugins and see if it loads faster. By a process of elimination you may be able to find whats causing the slow load.




    Thanks Noel I will do that and get back all audio is 32 Bit, FX used on project are 5 X Ozone, 5 X BT Stereo Imager, 2X CA Amp sims, 1 X Boost 11, 1 X Breverb and 1 X NI Gtr Rig. 
     
    One other point I noticed on start up it appears to scan Qin RV which is a Kong Audio soft synth. I used this on one track and bounced it to audio and deleted the instrument and midi track. Raises the question why is Sonar scanning it when it is not present in the project?

     
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 09:28:12 (permalink)
    Raises the question why is Sonar scanning it when it is not present in the project?
     
     
     
     
    That sounds like you still have vst scanning enabled. If so, unless you're adding new plug-ins, I would shut that off. Some of my plug-ins take a while when scanning at first install or when I add things. It's possible that's what causing the slow load time.
     
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/02/11 09:28:47 (permalink)
    Pilot error synth rack had several synths in it hence slow start up. Synths deleted from rack now unfrozen project opens in approx 30 seconds. Still a little slower than the other DAW but not a deal breaker. Hope my pilot error may help some others who may experience the same.
     
    Thanks for all the help.
     
    Whoops emwhy looks like we posted at the same time. Good call have just also done that thanks.
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/07/03 03:18:57 (permalink)
    try this before reading the whole thing...
    i'm not pro just trying to help since i was having the same problem
    and here's the quick fix: 
     
    1.disable the ethernet device. (in other words pull off the internet cable)
    2.disable all the anti-virus programs.  (and microsoft firewalls)
    3.Delete the anti-virus program if necessary.
    4.see if everything is back to normal.
    (sometimes it still freeze a little but still 10 times faster than before)
     
    if this method works then read the context below for details...
     
     
    don't know if it help but i was experiencing the same problem a day ago,
    in my case the reason that makes the project opening process take forever
    is that my anti-virus program recently updated some new functions and it
    now take all the vst loading processes as hacking intrusions.
     
    so when i delete all the Vst from the session, the project opens up a little faster.
    and when i delete all the Vsti also, it's almost as fast as when it was normal.   
    i thought there must be some errors with my Vst but it's actually my anti-virus program.
    i use sonar with my anti-virus open for years but somehow it now think my Vst are threats
    and it scans EVERY-SINGLE-MOVE when open a project.
    in my case that's the reason why it takes so long to "open", but fast as usual during play-back and editing.
     
    i'm not a professional in program engineering nor anti-virus programs so my words might be lack of precision.
    anyways here's how i fixed it:
     
    1.leave all the internet protecting functions on (since that's the main reason for having the anti-virus program)
    2.turn off the "on board" or "software" monitoring functions one by one to test which one is blocking the vst loading.
    3.play around for a few minutes to see if the blocking function will switch on automatically. (mine does...)
     
    my anti-virus program is in chinese language so i think i'll just skip the screenshots and leave this in text form.  
    post edited by NELLA - 2015/07/03 03:29:30
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    Re: Platinum. Start up a project is slow as in 1min 30 Seconds. 2015/07/03 11:54:57 (permalink)
    NELLA
    try this before reading the whole thing...
    i'm not pro just trying to help since i was having the same problem
    and here's the quick fix

     
    Very, very interesting...
     

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