maltastudio
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Playlist Title Fonts ( Solved with windows magnifier)
Hi all is there a way to change the Fonts of the titles of projects in the playlist view? Peace
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tenfoot
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/05 13:46:30
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Greetings fellow playlist user! There is a font adjustment for lyric view, but not for the actual playlist as far as I know. I believe changing your font size under windows display settings is the only option. You are actually adjusting all of the system fonts in this case, so you can generally get away with +20% or so, but beyond that things get weird!
Someone else here may know clever workaround for this, but if not it would be an excellent feature request.
I am beginning to think however that playlist users may be very rare indeed!
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/05 17:08:53
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I would love to use playlist in my live solo shows, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of info about it. Do you guys know of any good resources, videos, tutorials etc.?
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/05 21:31:28
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The playlist really is a great function, and works very well once you get the hang of it Sir William. Unfortunately I dont know of any videos. Below is a link to the online documentation, with a further 2 links on the bottom of that page. It is also explained in more detail on page 327 of the Sonar reference Guide PDF. I save my projects for live use with a screenset arranged so that the project track view takes up only the upper right side of the screen, leaving space for the playlist down the left side (it's screen position is saved with the playlist), and a lyric view popup across the bottom of the screen when needed for learning new songs. You can of course just have the playlist view full screen if you wish. I also for the most part save my playlists with the pause between songs set to 'wait for keypress'. I then activate the enable playlist button. This way, as a song finishes, the next song loads and waits for any keypress to commence playing. You can also load the next song whilst the current one is playing or between songs should you wish to reorder your set, and it is very quick to load. It is resonably straightforward. Let us know if you have any questions. https://www.cakewalk.com/...;help=Playback.39.html
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 01:06:34
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Thank you so much tenfoot. I shall certainly have a play with playlists. Can I just ask - as the next song plays, is the previous song unloaded and memory freed up?
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 01:26:55
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☄ Helpfulby FreeFlyBertl 2016/04/07 02:55:44
Sir William
Thank you so much tenfoot. I shall certainly have a play with playlists. Can I just ask - as the next song plays, is the previous song unloaded and memory freed up?
It is as long as the playlist's enable button is active, unless you make a change to the song (move a fader etc). If Sonar sees the file as 'dirty' (the file change asterix indicator appears next to the project name at the top of the Sonar window) it will leave the project open in the background.
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 02:27:16
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Hi Thanks for the help tenfoot,I tried to change some font settings in windows but anything i changed never effected the size of fonts in the playlist view,there must be a trick somewhere in the cakewalk.ini file, i just have to find it. Peace
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 03:47:13
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Hey Maltastudio.
Scaling the font size under control panel definitely makes all text, including the playlist, larger. I see you are running Win 10, so right click on the windows start menu button in the bottom left of the desktop (or wherever you have it) and choose control panel, then click on display. On the window that opens, under the heading 'change size of items, click on the linked text that says 'set a custom scaling level'. In the drop down box choose a percentage (try 150% for a start), then click OK on that dialogue box, then apply on the next screen. A pop-up will tell you that you need to sign out to apply the settings. Click 'sign out now' . When you sign back in, your playlist text, along with everything else will be bigger.
Definitely let me know if you find a custom setting for it in an ini fiile anywhere. That would be great:)
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 08:36:38
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tenfoot
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Thank you so much tenfoot. I shall certainly have a play with playlists. Can I just ask - as the next song plays, is the previous song unloaded and memory freed up?
It is as long as the playlist's enable button is active, unless you make a change to the song (move a fader etc). If Sonar sees the file as 'dirty' (the file change asterix indicator appears next to the project name at the top of the Sonar window) it will leave the project open in the background.
Ah, that's a pity, because I was hoping to control things in real time (if needed) with a control surface. However, I can work around that. Thanks again. :)
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 09:43:28
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Hi thanks again tenfoot I did what you said and it works but it makes all windows bigger as well.
Not good for me.
Peace
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 10:24:05
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Sir William
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Thank you so much tenfoot. I shall certainly have a play with playlists. Can I just ask - as the next song plays, is the previous song unloaded and memory freed up?
It is as long as the playlist's enable button is active, unless you make a change to the song (move a fader etc). If Sonar sees the file as 'dirty' (the file change asterix indicator appears next to the project name at the top of the Sonar window) it will leave the project open in the background.
Ah, that's a pity, because I was hoping to control things in real time (if needed) with a control surface. However, I can work around that. Thanks again. :)
Yeah - It is a little frustrating. I do the same with my X32. The playlist/Sonar seems to handle quite a few projects open in the background without any issue though (I run around 24 tracks per project with realtime FX, but no live vsti's). Good luck with it!
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 10:25:00
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maltastudio
Hi thanks again tenfoot I did what you said and it works but it makes all windows bigger as well.
Not good for me.
Peace
I hear you Maltastudio - it's a very very long way from ideal!
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 13:00:28
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tenfoot.............It is as long as the playlist's enable button is active, unless you make a change to the song (move a fader etc). If Sonar sees the file as 'dirty' (the file change asterix indicator appears next to the project name at the top of the Sonar window) it will leave the project open in the background.
Well in my case there is something different. If I run a playlist, say five songs, when I get to the fifth song and then close down via the x in the far top right...there is song 4, close song 4 and behind it there is song 3, close song 3, and behind it is song 2 etc etc. I have made NO changes or edits. Only keystroke has bee the once used to play the song. So obviously they do NOT close down once done with. I would hazard a guess that these "background" used songs are using some resources, and on a small system that could be significant. PS: running latest version of SPLAT
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 14:02:26
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tenfoot.............It is as long as the playlist's enable button is active, unless you make a change to the song (move a fader etc). If Sonar sees the file as 'dirty' (the file change asterix indicator appears next to the project name at the top of the Sonar window) it will leave the project open in the background.
So obviously they do NOT close down once done with.
I would hazard a guess that these "background" used songs are using some resources, and on a small system that could be significant.
PS: running latest version of SPLAT
I remember the issue you were having Joden. Definitely worth a call to tech support it you still haven't found the cause. Cakewalk were very helpful when I had a similar problem that turned out to be a plugin causing Sonar to see the songs as changed even though they weren't. I have 3 systems running Sonar using the playlist and they all close the songs once played (when the playlist is enabled). It is certainly the intended bahaviour. I too am running the latest version of Splat - not that it matters. The playlist has pretty much worked the same way for about 15 years:) Well, to be fair it did get a bit of a polish in X2/3, mainly to things that got broken in x1 though! FWIW, if you aren't running VST instruments, the passive 'background' songs don't seem to be using much in the way of system resources. I often un-enable the playlist during rehearsals and will end up with a dozen or so songs open with no noticeable lag in the system or spikes in the performance metres. Wish I could be of more help, but if I remember rightly you have tried most everything. 
post edited by tenfoot - 2016/04/06 15:03:05
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 14:43:13
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maltastudio
Hi thanks again tenfoot I did what you said and it works but it makes all windows bigger as well.
Not good for me.
Peace
Maybe the Windows magnifier could be the solution to make things bigger temporarily.
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 15:40:13
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tenfoot
joden
tenfoot.............It is as long as the playlist's enable button is active, unless you make a change to the song (move a fader etc). If Sonar sees the file as 'dirty' (the file change asterix indicator appears next to the project name at the top of the Sonar window) it will leave the project open in the background.
So obviously they do NOT close down once done with.
I would hazard a guess that these "background" used songs are using some resources, and on a small system that could be significant.
PS: running latest version of SPLAT
I remember the issue you were having Joden. Definitely worth a call to tech support it you still haven't found the cause.
Cakewalk were very helpful when I had a similar problem that turned out to be a plugin causing Sonar to see the songs as changed even though they weren't.
I have 3 systems running Sonar using the playlist and they all close the songs once played (when the playlist is enabled). It is certainly the intended bahaviour. I too am running the latest version of Splat - not that it matters. The playlist has pretty much worked the same way for about 15 years:) Well, to be fair it did get a bit of a polish in X2/3, mainly to things that got broken in x1 though!
FWIW, if you aren't running VST instruments, the passive 'background' songs don't seem to be using much in the way of system resources. I often un-enable the playlist during rehearsals and will end up with a dozen or so songs open with no noticeable lag in the system or spikes in the performance metres.
Wish I could be of more help, but if I remember rightly you have tried most everything.
haha! That's cool tenfoot...I cannot find anything that could be causing it. And yes I do have VSTi's in the projects for every song for my live keys and bass work! On my laptop the screen re-draws and cwp loadings are "stuttery" which is a bit distracting especially when trying to do quick transitions (people dancing etc etc).
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 16:02:24
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Hey fellow playlist users! Does your scroll line work in the track view after the first song on the playlist? Mine only shows on the first and last song. I can work with it, but it's sure nice to see what's coming in the song. Especially when I'm using it to fire midi and light cues.
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 22:03:43
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☄ Helpfulby joden 2016/04/07 00:46:47
Hey JCody. Yes - I see that! I wonder when that started. The playback marker returns when you click on the track view window of the current song. It seems that the window focus shifts to the minimised window of the upcoming song on the playlist, with the exception of the last song, where there is no next song! You know, it seems to me that all of our issues could be solved with just 1 change. Why not make it that the playlist only loads one active song when 'wait for keypress' is enabled? At the end of that song, it closes the current song, loads the next and then displays the start next song dialogue. No gllitching and dodgy screen redraws. No scroll bar window focus issues. No project windows left open. The only cost would be a very slightly longer delay whilst the song loads - a total non issue with 'wait for keypress' anyway. I say we start a revolution and demand a little love for the playlist. Come on - there's four of us now. Thats almost 5. We are legion. 
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/06 22:43:08
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scook
Maybe the Windows magnifier could be the solution to make things bigger temporarily.
Scook you are a freakin' wonder! That works brilliantly. Activate the 'keep focus on playlist' button, then set the magnifier to follow keyboard focus and position its window down one side of the screen and you have an instant giant playlist.
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/07 00:12:22
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Tenfoot,
There are times when I need immediate playback, like in using the "N" key to immediately start the next song. It used to work perfectly. Then they changed something in the order of when the next song gets loaded that somehow causes loss of focus on the currently playing song. Actually it works if you load one of sonar's own templates. But as soon as you change something in it, then the wonky behavior re-immerges. My dream would be a playlist that could play songs on top of each other. I use it for live theater. Let's say you have a scene that takes place in the rain and you have to have a thunderclap happen on cue. You would want the rain effect to continue when you hit the spacebar for the thunder. Anyway . . . one can dream.
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/07 00:31:45
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tenfoot
You know, it seems to me that all of our issues could be solved with just 1 change. Why not make it that the playlist only loads one active song when 'wait for keypress' is enabled? At the end of that song, it closes the current song, loads the next and then displays the start next song dialogue. No gllitching and dodgy screen redraws. No scroll bar window focus issues. No project windows left open. The only cost would be a very slightly longer delay whilst the song loads - a total non issue with 'wait for keypress' anyway.
I say we start a revolution and demand a little love for the playlist. Come on - there's four of us now. Thats almost 5. We are legion.
^^^^^ This!
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/07 01:26:07
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Tenfoot,
There are times when I need immediate playback, like in using the "N" key to immediately start the next song. It used to work perfectly. Then they changed something in the order of when the next song gets loaded that somehow causes loss of focus on the currently playing song. Actually it works if you load one of sonar's own templates. But as soon as you change something in it, then the wonky behavior re-immerges. My dream would be a playlist that could play songs on top of each other. I use it for live theater. Let's say you have a scene that takes place in the rain and you have to have a thunderclap happen on cue. You would want the rain effect to continue when you hit the spacebar for the thunder. Anyway . . . one can dream.
Yes - can see why instant playback is important to you. It would be great to have the option to preload if you are working with simpler projects, or to have single project mode for more complex ones that cause concurrent loading/playing problems. As you say - we can dream:) The thing that perplexes me is that when the playlist is set to 'wait for keypress', a project will play, then the 'start next song' dialogue pops up, and the system sits idle with the previously played song still backloaded and the new 'current song' ready to go. Only after you strike any key to start playback does the system close the last song and begin loading. Why on earth doesn't it do that while the system is idle and the dialogue is displayed? This alone would be a massive improvement. The playlist is such a good feature. It's a shame that these few quirks put a lot of people off using it. It seems many small issues have snuck in over time and been ignored:(
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/07 01:28:25
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tenfoot
You know, it seems to me that all of our issues could be solved with just 1 change. Why not make it that the playlist only loads one active song when 'wait for keypress' is enabled? At the end of that song, it closes the current song, loads the next and then displays the start next song dialogue. No gllitching and dodgy screen redraws. No scroll bar window focus issues. No project windows left open. The only cost would be a very slightly longer delay whilst the song loads - a total non issue with 'wait for keypress' anyway.
I say we start a revolution and demand a little love for the playlist. Come on - there's four of us now. Thats almost 5. We are legion.
I`m In . Peace
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/07 01:58:19
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Re: Playlist Title Fonts
2016/04/07 02:21:19
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tenfoot
scook
Maybe the Windows magnifier could be the solution to make things bigger temporarily.
Scook you are a freakin' wonder! That works brilliantly. Activate the 'keep focus on playlist' button, then set the magnifier to follow keyboard focus and position its window down one side of the screen and you have an instant giant playlist. Thanks scook and tenfoot this worked perfect for me. Peace
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