Playlist question

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2016/03/09 09:28:01 (permalink)

Playlist question

Hi anybody familiar with playlist.
The question is  when I use playlist and i use it with enable button shut off (the E shortcut) so it does not load next song,Playlist  does not close any project i have opened even though i have selected Allow only one project in the advanced setting,is this normal?
Do i have to close each file if playlist is not Enabled?
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 09:46:41 (permalink)
    Yes -  that is normal.  Once you open a playlist,  if you go to preferences you will notice that the one file option becomes greyed out.  If you un-enable the playlist you must close songs manually. 

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 12:03:53 (permalink)
    This has been discussed elsewhere, and a consensus was that Sonar SHOULD close a project when it opens the next one on a playlist. Why it doesn't, especially when the Only One Project option is selected is a mystery!
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 12:13:09 (permalink)
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    This has been discussed elsewhere, and a consensus was that Sonar SHOULD close a project when it opens the next one on a playlist. Why it doesn't, especially when the Only One Project option is selected is a mystery!


    It does close the project if the playlist is 'enabled'  Joden. The only exception is if any changes are made to the project.
    It is impossible to select single project mode once a playlist is open.  It is greyed out in the options.  The reason for this is that if a playlist is active it loads the next song whilst the current one is playing. It really does all make sense. 

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 15:18:32 (permalink)
    Yes it makes sense how it is ,It`s just that at the moment I`m using it on a very slow laptop, so while playing a song loading the next is interrupting the lyrics view.
    I tried on the studio laptop it`s ok so few months more and an I5 will do.
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 17:31:22 (permalink)
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    joden
    This has been discussed elsewhere, and a consensus was that Sonar SHOULD close a project when it opens the next one on a playlist. Why it doesn't, especially when the Only One Project option is selected is a mystery!


    It does close the project if the playlist is 'enabled'  Joden. The only exception is if any changes are made to the project.
    It is impossible to select single project mode once a playlist is open.  It is greyed out in the options.  The reason for this is that if a playlist is active it loads the next song whilst the current one is playing. It really does all make sense. 


    nope, not for me it doesn't, all previous opened projects are still lined up behind the current one....using latest SPLAT version...and in fact when in playlist mode the Only Open One Project option is greyed out.
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 19:37:17 (permalink)
    maltastudio
    Yes it makes sense how it is ,It`s just that at the moment I`m using it on a very slow laptop, so while playing a song loading the next is interrupting the lyrics view.
    I tried on the studio laptop it`s ok so few months more and an I5 will do.
    Thanks all
    Peace


    Yes -  I have noticed that projects in the playlist don't load quite as quickly in Sonar 2015 as they did in X3. I run an i7 for my live show,  and occasionally on larger projects the next project loading will cause the click track count-in of the current project to glitch. It only plays through my in ear monitors so it is no big deal,  but this never happened in X3.  Unfortunately due to patch points,  the projects will no longer load in X3 when they are created in the new Sonar or I would still use it for live shows.

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 20:00:16 (permalink)
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    joden
    This has been discussed elsewhere, and a consensus was that Sonar SHOULD close a project when it opens the next one on a playlist. Why it doesn't, especially when the Only One Project option is selected is a mystery!


    It does close the project if the playlist is 'enabled'  Joden. The only exception is if any changes are made to the project.
    It is impossible to select single project mode once a playlist is open.  It is greyed out in the options.  The reason for this is that if a playlist is active it loads the next song whilst the current one is playing. It really does all make sense. 


    nope, not for me it doesn't, all previous opened projects are still lined up behind the current one....using latest SPLAT version...and in fact when in playlist mode the Only Open One Project option is greyed out.




     
     I remember your issue Joden -  still no luck? I have just run a quick check and the playlist in the latest update is closing songs as it should when enabled.
    As I said in the last post,  the one file option is always greyed out when a playlist is open. The playlist needs to open more than one project to function.  it has no effect on the playlist closing songs once they have played.
    Do you by any chance use any Prochannel fx chain presets in your projects? This caused me some grief with the playlist thinking projects had changed when they had not,  stopping them from closing as they should. 
     
    post edited by tenfoot - 2016/03/09 22:31:18

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 21:47:31 (permalink)
    Thanks Bruce I will check that out - re Prochannel. I do use it for a few songs. So I will try Playlist again with no PRo-channel..although not sure what I'll do if I have to remove it...put the effects in track EFX I guess haha!
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/09 22:15:18 (permalink)
    joden
    Thanks Bruce I will check that out - re Prochannel. I do use it for a few songs. So I will try Playlist again with no PRo-channel..although not sure what I'll do if I have to remove it...put the effects in track EFX I guess haha!


    Not the pro channel on its own Joden - it is fine.  The issue I had was saving fx from the fx bin (specifically breverb) as part of a pro channel fx chain preset and then inserting that preset into a project. Every time the playlist started  to play the project it would register the file as changed with an asterisks next to its name on the project window title. This stops the playlist from closing projects. You were not getting asterisks though we're you? 
     

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/10 01:52:27 (permalink)
    In my opinion Playlist should not let you do any edits to the projects,that should solve all the small problems.
    I do not use the real project in playlist,I use the mixed wavefile plus a midi track for lyrics,one track for vocals with eq dynamics and reverb on pro channel for real time effects and another track for guitar with TH2 in it.
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/10 03:03:57 (permalink)
    maltastudio
    In my opinion Playlist should not let you do any edits to the projects,that should solve all the small problems.
    I do not use the real project in playlist,I use the mixed wavefile plus a midi track for lyrics,one track for vocals with eq dynamics and reverb on pro channel for real time effects and another track for guitar with TH2 in it.
    Peace


     
    Hmmm -  except that it is pretty handy to be able to tweak mixes on the fly. 

    You are using live inputs?  I wonder if that is the issue. I use real time fx on 24 recorded tracks + midi, but no live inputs. Try making a few temp projects with just wave files in them and see if the playlist still doesn't close the projects. 

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/10 05:39:19 (permalink)
    Yes i`m using live inputs that is the main reason i`m using sonar to do just that,no mixer no effect pedals to carry everyday.Playlist is working as it should it closes projects when it is enabled.The only projects that dont close is because that some plugins they do not see automation as part of the project they report a change to sonar so the asterics(next to the title) appears as the automated changes happen in certain plugins.
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    post edited by maltastudio - 2016/03/20 03:48:59

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/10 06:30:07 (permalink)
    maltastudio
    Yes i`m using live inputs that is the main reason i`m using sonar to do just that,no mixer no effect pedals to carry everyday.Playlist is working as it should it closes projects when it is enabled.
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    Sorry metalstudio -  I mistook your post for you Joden who is having trouble with projects not closing. At least we know live inputs aren't his problem:) 
    Cool idea not carrying any gear.  I'm not quite brave enough to run real-time Iive input fx at gigs - kudos for the balls out approach dude!

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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/10 12:00:44 (permalink)
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    Thanks Bruce I will check that out - re Prochannel. I do use it for a few songs. So I will try Playlist again with no PRo-channel..although not sure what I'll do if I have to remove it...put the effects in track EFX I guess haha!


    Not the pro channel on its own Joden - it is fine.  The issue I had was saving fx from the fx bin (specifically breverb) as part of a pro channel fx chain preset and then inserting that preset into a project. Every time the playlist started  to play the project it would register the file as changed with an asterisks next to its name on the project window title. This stops the playlist from closing projects. You were not getting asterisks though we're you? 
     


    ahhh okay, gotcha
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/18 22:27:54 (permalink)
    I just upgraded to Sonar Platinum. I will be using the playlist for live applications. I want to incorporate a Bluetooth peddle for start and stop. The peddle works fine for the first song, but nothing after the second song starts. I believe this is because the previously played songs are still open. Any help would truly be appreciated.
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    Re: Playlist question 2016/03/19 06:18:53 (permalink)
    Thom
    I just upgraded to Sonar Platinum. I will be using the playlist for live applications. I want to incorporate a Bluetooth peddle for start and stop. The peddle works fine for the first song, but nothing after the second song starts. I believe this is because the previously played songs are still open. Any help would truly be appreciated.
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    I have yet to find a remote solution that will work with the playlst. They all seem to have trouble with the confirm dialogue when using the wait for keypress function. I ended up adapting a pc keyboard by putting in an rca socket wired to the space bar contacts, then plugged an open circuit footswitch into that. 
     
    I too would love to hear from anyone using a wireless footswitch successfully with the play list. 

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