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2013/06/14 09:28:06 (permalink)

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I am having a problem with my recording on Sonar producer X1, if anyone knows what the problem may be please help. What is happening is when I record on Sonar X1 my audio basically quantizes itself automatically I guess is the best way to describe it. For example if I start recording at 0001 and record audio until 0010, when I press stop the program automatically compresses the audio to 0001 to 0005, so the audio(vocals) will be pressed together and not on beat. It is random though, one day it just started to do it. I actually unistalled the program and reinstalled it and at first it was fine but then all of a sudden it was doing it again. I'm not sure if it is a setting or something but if anyone can help please let me know how u think this problem can be fixed because I am basically dead in the water until a solution is found. Thank you for reading
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 09:43:57 (permalink)
strange. it feels like your clips turn into groove clips automatically after recording.. :/ never heard of this.
 
try and select one of the recorded clips, press ctrl+L and see if that helps.. if this is the problem I don't know how to deactivate this auto-function though :/

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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 09:51:49 (permalink)
Nope no luck didn't move it much at all thanks though
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 09:51:57 (permalink)
Without knowing what your computer and soundcard specs are it is impossible to give you an answer.  My guess is that Sonar is set at one resolution while your soundcard is at another, maybe something like Sonar is at 44.1kHz while your soundcard is at a higher resolution like 48kHz or 96kHz.

The reason people say the vinyl sounds better is because the music was better.
 
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 09:54:23 (permalink)
Ensure your clock is st to external.

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:05:03 (permalink)
Loptec, why can ctrl l change the length of the clip. That confused me.

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:09:25 (permalink)
It was not doing it in the begging though, and if that is the case how would I go about changing them so that they are consistent with each other.
And I have windows 7
 
Name High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Microsoft
Status OK
PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7618&SUBSYS_102801DB&REV_1002\4&2362C0B4&0&0201
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\hdaudio.sys (6.1.7601.17514, 297.00 KB (304,128 bytes), 11/20/2010 4:29 PM)
That is my soundcard specs, not sure what it all means but as far as the computer
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
System Model Dell DXP0
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz, 2128 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
 
Not sure if this is what u meant but let me know. Thanks
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:11:16 (permalink)
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Loptec, why can ctrl l change the length of the clip. That confused me.



because ctrl+L is the shortcut for making a clip into a groove clip.
depending on the length of the clip (and more) sonar can change the clips length to fit the project's time

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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:13:03 (permalink)
gswitz, right now my clock Is set to audio, but I don't have an external option, just -internal, -SMPTE/MTC, -MIDI Sync, or -Audio
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:14:13 (permalink)
gswitz, right now my clock Is set to audio, but I don't have an external option, just -internal, -SMPTE/MTC, -MIDI Sync, or -Audio
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:19:00 (permalink)
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It was not doing it in the begging though, and if that is the case how would I go about changing them so that they are consistent with each other.
And I have windows 7
 
Name High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Microsoft
Status OK
PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7618&SUBSYS_102801DB&REV_1002\4&2362C0B4&0&0201
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\hdaudio.sys (6.1.7601.17514, 297.00 KB (304,128 bytes), 11/20/2010 4:29 PM)
That is my soundcard specs, not sure what it all means but as far as the computer
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
System Model Dell DXP0
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz, 2128 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
 
Not sure if this is what u meant but let me know. Thanks


 
sorry, but your problem may for sure be caused by your audio interface. this one's not made for music production
 
you really should consider buying one that is.
you can get a quite good one for aound US$150 today
 
check out focusrite's scarlet series for example
 
meanwhile; try and download and install ASIO4ALL and see if it workes better after that. you need to activate the ASIO-driver in Sonar after the install
http://www.asio4all.com/

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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:20:58 (permalink)
Hi,first,you must use ASIO4ALL.
When have installed ASIO choose this option in the Sonar's  Preference tab.
After this,use the internal clock in the Sync and Cache Tab.
The last,tick the "use ASIO latency delay" on the same preference tab.
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:24:51 (permalink)
I have my M-Audio interace running though, is this what you mean?
 
Name M-Audio FastTrack Pro
Manufacturer M-Audio
Status OK
PNP Device ID USB\VID_0763&PID_2012\5&2E19CC2B&0&2
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\maudiofasttrackpro.sys (5.10.0.5134, 154.88 KB (158,600 bytes), 12/7/2010 2:39 PM)
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:32:26 (permalink)
Do you have an audio interface plugged into your computer?

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:32:52 (permalink)
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It was not doing it in the begging though, and if that is the case how would I go about changing them so that they are consistent with each other.
And I have windows 7
 
Name High Definition Audio Device
Manufacturer Microsoft
Status OK
PNP Device ID HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_8384&DEV_7618&SUBSYS_102801DB&REV_1002\4&2362C0B4&0&0201
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\hdaudio.sys (6.1.7601.17514, 297.00 KB (304,128 bytes), 11/20/2010 4:29 PM)
That is my soundcard specs, not sure what it all means but as far as the computer
OS Name Microsoft Windows 7 Professional
System Model Dell DXP0
System Type X86-based PC
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6400  @ 2.13GHz, 2128 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 2 Logical Processor(s)
 
Not sure if this is what u meant but let me know. Thanks


 
sorry, but your problem may for sure be caused by your audio interface. this one's not made for music production
 
you really should consider buying one that is.
you can get a quite good one for aound US$150 today
 
check out focusrite's scarlet series for example
 
meanwhile; try and download and install ASIO4ALL and see if it workes better after that. you need to activate the ASIO-driver in Sonar after the install




I have my M-Audio interace running though, is this what you mean?
 
Name M-Audio FastTrack Pro
Manufacturer M-Audio
Status OK
PNP Device ID USB\VID_0763&PID_2012\5&2E19CC2B&0&2
Driver c:\windows\system32\drivers\maudiofasttrackpro.sys (5.10.0.5134, 154.88 KB (158,600 bytes), 12/7/2010 2:39 PM)
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:34:24 (permalink)
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Do you have an audio interface plugged into your computer?

yea an m-audio fast track, it was all working fine in the beginning then all of a sudden it started doing this
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:34:46 (permalink)
You are a little bit confused.
Your device,if installed,is Maudio,is not Microsoft High Def Audio Device.
Change the Audio windows options and read the Sonar's Audio device install manual.
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:49:36 (permalink)
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You are a little bit confused.
Your device,if installed,is Maudio,is not Microsoft High Def Audio Device.
Change the Audio windows options and read the Sonar's Audio device install manual.
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O ok yea I understand what your saying but no I have the m-audio device running, it is running through sonar and everything.
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 10:51:47 (permalink)
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You are a little bit confused.
Your device,if installed,is Maudio,is not Microsoft High Def Audio Device.
Change the Audio windows options and read the Sonar's Audio device install manual.
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O ok yea I understand what your saying but no I have the m-audio device running, it is running through sonar and everything.




what drivers are you using?
(preferences -> playback and recording: driver mode)

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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 11:00:58 (permalink)
Driver Mode: WDM/KS
DITHERING: Rectangular
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 11:06:08 (permalink)
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Driver Mode: WDM/KS
DITHERING: Rectangular




Try and change WDM/KS to ASIO and see if that helps

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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 11:11:34 (permalink)
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Driver Mode: WDM/KS
DITHERING: Rectangular




Try and change WDM/KS to ASIO and see if that helps




Thank you veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery much Loptec, it worked. Brought a tear to my eye......... I will never forget you for this. Thank you very much again
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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 11:18:45 (permalink)
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Driver Mode: WDM/KS
DITHERING: Rectangular




Try and change WDM/KS to ASIO and see if that helps




Thank you veeeeeeeeeeeeeeery much Loptec, it worked. Brought a tear to my eye......... I will never forget you for this. Thank you very much again


 
haha! no problem at all ;)
glad I could be of any help and that you got it to work :)

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Re: Please Help 2013/06/14 11:57:20 (permalink)
Change driver mode to asio

StudioCat > I use Windows 10 and Sonar Platinum. I have a touch screen.
I make some videos. This one shows how to do a physical loopback on the RME UCX to get many more equalizer nodes.
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