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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 01:23:53
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noble wish but pipe dream :-(
the reason they are on github is because nobody maintains them anymore ... and it has been like this ever since the X series came around (apart from a very few fixes) ...
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 03:48:14
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Give it time, I'm sure Gibson will buy a keyboard company eventually.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 03:59:02
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The source code on github is for eventual developers. SDK is available since years, the have just recently decided to put good "examples" into it.
MCU is distributed with Sonar. For VS there are separate installation package available.
Note that VS is Roland product, so Roland should be asked about improvements (since that is different company now).
I hope CW eventually fix some CS related bugs inside Sonar. The rest can be done by users.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 04:48:15
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anderton already said cake were focusing on touch rather than hardware controllers
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 08:55:52
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Move out of problem reports forum with no comment from host. That's service for you. BTW the reason LAME got updated was because that got kept in problem reports. Cakewalk needs to comment, nobody here makes policy. The earlier version DLL's are already distributed with Sonar. The latest DLL's fix bugs. Go and look at github changelog.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 08:58:24
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if you want official cakewalk comment then here is not the place
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 08:59:36
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pwalpwal
anderton already said cake were focusing on touch rather than hardware controllers
Just to be clear, that's not "from the horse's mouth," it was an assumption that Cakewalk would be focusing on touch.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:00:46
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ampfixer
Give it time, I'm sure Gibson will buy a keyboard company eventually.
LOL! I've been talking to a controller company and they said they'll include a template for Rapture Pro...progress.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:02:37
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Thanks Craig I hope now this gets moved back in problem reports where it belongs. People should compare this with the LAME issue with problem which got moved over to problem reports (let me take credit for that for once) and then got updated one month later. I repeat again these DLL's are distributed with Sonar and need updating.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/05/18 09:08:43
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:03:41
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:05:53
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You miss the entire point. It is DISTRIBUTED by Cakewalk. Updating LAME got rid of bugs. It happened (got updated) it stayed in problem reports.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:06:17
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Anderton
pwalpwal
anderton already said cake were focusing on touch rather than hardware controllers
Just to be clear, that's not "from the horse's mouth," it was an assumption that Cakewalk would be focusing on touch.
fair enough, although it was only after years of harranguing that the cs code got released... touch is also more likely available to new users without having to buy more kit, so that makes sense business-wise at least :)
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:06:40
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Doktor Avalanche
You miss the entire point.
a great skill of mine ;)
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:09:12
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Will the anonymous host please move this back for Cakewalk to comment. Thankyou...
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:15:38
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It is fine here. The files you're referring to are examples for the SDK, which itself is for end users to be able to create their own add-ons as required.
If you believe they should be distributed as part of the core program then your best option would be to email Cakewalk and tell them directly.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:19:23
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Alex, please change the subject line back else I'll have to assume you no longer wish the subject to be discussed and I'll have to remove the thread.
Thanks.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:26:31
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☄ Helpfulby kevo 2015/05/18 12:31:01
Why am I breaking any forum rules here?
This isn't a discussion this should have stayed in problem reports. Moving it out ignored handbook rules. When that happens the subject title can be changed and I can get a CWBRN.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:27:45
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Karyn why was this moved out of problem reports are you in charge of Cakewalk policy?
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:30:55
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And I just read again what you wrote. You are THREATENING to delete this post. On the basis of what? A subject title you don't like? Edited ... Earlier I did say I will change the subject title when it's back in problem reports I have done so. Please be less heavy handed in future.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/05/18 09:40:43
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:33:01
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Just realised we are in problem reports will change
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:36:22
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Alex, as I said in the other thread:
I don't think it was an attempt to exercise power, it appears on the surface with a cursory read like the thread is about distributing info on SONAR. So the reason for moving it was probably because it was moved too hurriedly, not maliciously.
For whatever reasons, it really wasn't clear to me from the initial post that this was a problem report so it wouldn't surprise me that someone else would see it the same way, and try to be helpful by moving it to the general SONAR discussion forum. I do think there is confusion sometimes about what's a "SONAR thing" and what's a "problem thing" but I don't have an easy solution for that. Judgement calls will be made and sometimes they'll be correct, sometimes not.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:41:13
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Alex, Cakewalk's choice of what they do or do not distribute with their software is their choice. If you disagree with that then please feel free to tell them so, just not in the problem reports forum.
If you have a specific issue with (say) your VS-100 that you know may be fixed by a new version of the control surface .dll then please create a report stating the nature of the problem, etc.. just as you know it should be done.
Simple stating your opinion and then complaining when others disagree is not what the Problem Reports forum is for.
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:41:18
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Craig if they don't see it that way they need to give an explanation first before they move it and allow me to respond. There are no troubleshooting problems and the issue is clear. It fulfils handbook guidelines.
The reality is that the issue may still get withdrawn, but in this instance it's Cakewalk's decision and it's not down to opinions.
And the worst thing of all this is moving issues around forums without giving reasons why... That's either sloppy or authoritarian.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 09:44:58
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Karyn... As I said it's all documented in github which cakewalk maintains. Allow cakewalk to decide how to handle this issue, there is nothing wrong with it.
The issue is entirely clear. The DLL's need to be distributed,this will fix bugs as documented in github. That's the problem report. Don't make it any more complicated.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 10:09:48
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Doktor Avalanchehandbook guidelines.
is this the published version of the handbook, which you previously said needed correcting/updating, or your imaginary corrected/updated version, that we're working from here? got a cwbr number and verification by other users? steps to reproduce perhaps?
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 10:13:17
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Seriously you haven't a clue this isn't a troubleshooting issue it's a distribution issue and it's clear. Please go and discuss this in the forum discussion forums, this thread does not need any further pollution, if you read my posts it could not be clearer. I don't want this issue going around in circles.
post edited by Doktor Avalanche - 2015/05/18 10:19:36
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 10:14:30
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feature request maybe then?
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Doktor Avalanche
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 10:15:37
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Thanks for polluting my issue very helpful. Leave it to Cakewalk and not your opinions.
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Re: latest control surfaces not distributed in Sonar
2015/05/18 10:18:21
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☄ Helpfulby paulo 2015/05/18 10:38:25
is pollution mentioned in the handbook?
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