Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!!

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2011/07/11 23:05:16 (permalink)

Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!!

  It just came to my attention that microtuning will no longer be possible in Z3ta+2.   Z3ta+ and your other instruments do support microtuning (Scala file support).   The main reason I started using Sonar and Cakewalk instruments is the support for microtuning.   You've built a name for yourselves in the microtonal community, and you're about to destroy it again with Z3ta+2 :(   Instruments that don't support microtuning are completely useless to me and all other microtonalists.   Please re-implement microtuning (Scala file support) in Z3ta+2 and other future instruments! Please.   If you do this, you'll have me (and many other microtonalists) as a very loyal, happy customer and promoter of Cakewalk software.   But you have to understand that microtuning support is an absolutely essential feature.
post edited by justintonation - 2011/07/11 23:07:15
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    RGDS
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/12 04:54:54 (permalink)
    I fully support this request and hope that this functionality will be re-implemented very quickly.
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/12 08:11:08 (permalink)
    +10 to this request.......

    not only does it help microtonalists but it helps in fine tuning your instrument to be in tune with tonal music ......

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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/12 09:08:17 (permalink)
    Please, please keep microtuning in your products!

    I use Z3TA+ and Dimension Pro microtonally on a regular basis.

    I am a member of UnTwelve board of directors and have a large exposure to the online microtonal music community.

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    Z3TA+ has been especially popular among microtonalists for quite some time. It is sad that Cakewalk has made such a decision.

    Chris Vaisvil


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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/12 13:14:48 (permalink)
    justintonation


      It just came to my attention that microtuning will no longer be possible in Z3ta+2.
    Can you please cite the source of this information?

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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/12 13:53:02 (permalink)
    A letter I received from Cakewalk support.

    Hello Chris,
     
    Thank you for contacting Cakewalk.
     
    Unfortunately, this feature has been eliminated because of the new architecture. I will send your feature request to the proper department. In the future, please submit any and all feature requests using the form below. You may want to post this on the Instruments forum as well. The more people that see the request, the more likely its re-implementation may be:
     
    http://www.cakewalk.com/support/featurerequest.asp
    http://forum.cakewalk.com/default.asp
     
    We appreciate your input.
     
    Thank you for choosing Cakewalk!
     
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    Legends Never Die, Z3TA+2 coming in late July: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLBPRPQxzlk
     
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    Does ZETA+ version 2 support scala tuning files like the previous versions do?

    Thanks,

    Chris
    post edited by vaisvil - 2011/07/12 13:54:32
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/14 17:16:24 (permalink)
    I use the micro-tonal feature in z3ta. I'm surprised that this would be dropped from z3ta version 2. Why take a step backwards in a new release?

    For the micro-tonal folks, not all is lost, as another 'Z' product that DOES support micro-tonal scales (and does everything that z3ta does, and more): Zebra!
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/14 18:37:52 (permalink)


    FWIW here is a video of me using 6 instances of Z3TA+ in Sonar with a Roland GR-20 Guitar synthesizer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3krEHxlBSk

    All of the details such how it was set up and the embedded video resides here: http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=25

    I used this set up to perform in Urbana Illinios - I made the video for a friend while I was practicing the piece and ironing out the technique.
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/15 15:59:13 (permalink)
    What does this have to do with the topic of this discussion?
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/15 20:49:36 (permalink)
    it is an example of using microtuning in z3ta+
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/07/28 13:36:56 (permalink)
    Unfortunately, this feature has been eliminated because of the new architecture.


    Too bad God would not give the programmers the ability to design a "new architecture" that would support one of the breakthrough capabilities of electronic musical instruments i. e. rapid and easy scale adjustment. Perhaps if they prayed instead of programmed, a miracle would happen that would allow them to write code that was not lame by design.

    Frankly I think they just realized that the trance cut-and-loopers who they now view as their target audience for softsynths have no use for tuning of any sort.

    No, I would not buy a contemporary synth that does not support microtuning. But I expect I will end up getting one free if I upgrade to Sonar X2 producer in the near future.
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/09/22 13:32:50 (permalink)
    justintonation


      It just came to my attention that microtuning will no longer be possible in Z3ta+2.   Z3ta+ and your other instruments do support microtuning (Scala file support).   The main reason I started using Sonar and Cakewalk instruments is the support for microtuning.   You've built a name for yourselves in the microtonal community, and you're about to destroy it again with Z3ta+2 :(   Instruments that don't support microtuning are completely useless to me and all other microtonalists.   Please re-implement microtuning (Scala file support) in Z3ta+2 and other future instruments! Please.   If you do this, you'll have me (and many other microtonalists) as a very loyal, happy customer and promoter of Cakewalk software.   But you have to understand that microtuning support is an absolutely essential feature.


    You'll be happy to learn (maybe you know already) that CW is restoring microtuning to Z3ta+ 2.  I just saw a post in KVR from someone on the development team.  A new version is in the works that includes bug fixes and the return of this feature.
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/09/22 17:36:15 (permalink)
    Confirmed in the Cakewalk newsletter I got today. Look for z3ta 2.1 in October.
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    Brian Desmond [Cakewalk]
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/09/23 09:36:15 (permalink)
    Hey guys -

    Yes, we made a mistake by not keeping it in Z3TA+ 2, but we have been listening to everyone, and it's coming back!

    As we added it back in, we cleaned up the dialogs a little bit to be a little easier to understand than they were in Z1, and now Z3TA+ 2.1 will ship with the latest full version of the Scala archive (version 76, July 2011) built right in.

    Should be out in a couple weeks unless we run into any major issues!



    post edited by Brian Desmond [Cakewalk] - 2011/09/23 10:01:48
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2011/10/02 07:19:02 (permalink)
    Yes, we made a mistake by not keeping it in Z3TA+ 2, but we have been listening to everyone, and it's coming back!

     
    Thanks for that open response, Brian.  Class act.  We're all listening, too, and the earlier 'eliminated because of the new architecture' comment rang hollow to me.  It's time to revisit this classic RGC synth makeover.
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    Re:Please keep Microtuning functionality in your instruments!! 2015/03/08 13:56:33 (permalink)
    Is Hermode tuning back too?
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