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Please take down the sticky above
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Important info regarding Sonar Activation
It is nothing more than here-say and means nothing and is misleading.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 00:48:07
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It's a direct message from Noel to a Host, how is that hearsay?
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 01:42:15
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Everything means nothing and is hearsay at the moment. I tend to trust Noel and hope he still has the control to enforce what he said. I'm sure if he said it, he means it.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 02:41:48
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☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2017/11/25 05:53:13
I'm at a loss to understand why anyone is upset with the information in those stickies. All they mean are there are alternatives. I myself will get Cubase Pro. I have had Studio one for years. I am on version 3. I also have Samplitude and Mixbus among others. Sonar has been my main DAW but I have never thought it was the only DAW. Right now things are in flux and I strongly believe that as hosts it is our duty to keep this forum calm and prepared to answer member questions. It also make sense to me that developers that are offering good deals to those that wish to transfer over to another DAW are allowed to post here. As far as I know there will be no more Sonar updates. With that understanding it seems very prudent to allow information on alternatives. I am not endorsing any other DAW at this time. However, I am also aware that members want to know where to look for a good solid DAW that will meet their needs as Sonar has for so long.
Consider any post that hi-lights another DAW as something like a public service. These are extraordinary times for this forum. We have no guidelines as to how to proceed as hosts. We need your cooperation in providing as much useful information as we can. So in the end you have as easy a time transitioning to another DAW as we can make it. That is our goal. I will say I am in shock that my beloved Sonar is no longer viable. Yet, I believe it is my duty as well as the other hosts to do the best we can in making this forum the very best forum for its members that we can for as long as we are able.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 02:42:53
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☄ Helpfulby SandlinJohn 2017/11/25 02:47:44
35mm: Noel and crew may be trying to decide if their severance check should go to food or rent, but they are still personally invested in SONAR. They'll figure out a way, even if Gibson runs interference.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 03:02:06
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Karyn
It's a direct message from Noel to a Host, how is that hearsay?
Because it is, just by what you said. A host is a glorified customer. What the host alleges, that if/when the servers go down we will be supplied uncrippled install files is pretty crucial to this whole mess. This has not been announced. Therefor, it is hearsay. AND, you even locked the thread?? So, why hasn't Noel said the same publicly?
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 04:27:00
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I am sure there are lots of announcements to be made. This news has only just broken. It must be chaos behind the scenes right now and most customers (those who don't use the forums) still have no idea. This is a big thing. They have to break the news in a dignified way and also work out the logistics for supporting customers through this whole thing and making sure they get what they paid for. I imagine the Cakewalk skeleton staff will have to do all that and maybe without getting paid for it. Some of them have been with Cakewalk for more than 20 years and I expect they are still trying to wipe the tears from their eyes right now. I can feel their pain. Hopefully, you can too. I'm sure answers will come soon.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 05:28:11
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Funny this was said, because I posted a very similar message at the old NNTP Cakewalk.Audio group earlier this morning. If Noel said this, it would prolly be good to provide a link to the original message from him. Then there would be no question about it.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 06:31:56
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☄ Helpfulby SONARtist 2017/11/25 13:20:06
I put the post up and locked it. You can discuss it in the forum all you like. My intention was to add to it as we got any more information that would address people’s questions.
What Noel can say 1 on 1 with someone via a PM perhaps is not what he is allowed to say publicly, at this stage.
In Noel’s original announcement he mentioned that further information would be forthcoming. An FAQ.
If someone I’ve known for years says they had a brief conversation with Noel and he said.......I believe him.
The link I posted takes you all the way back to wookiee’s Original post over at SonarMods via a link in a Cakewalk forum post. This way everyone can trace the origin of the “hearsay”.
In a climate where we’re all looking for some reassurances I thought this would at least answer the most pressing question we all have at this time. As more “hearsay” is gathered I’ll add it to that sticky.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 06:43:29
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mudgelIn a climate where we’re all looking for some reassurances I thought this would at least answer the most pressing question we all have at this time. As more “hearsay” is gathered I’ll add it to that sticky.
Not long ago it was stated that, "Staff View is not a forgotten or dead topic at Cakewalk". Add that to the question, "has this activation without connection to a server patch, already been written and thoroughly tested to be bug free?", because if not, who will be around to program it at some later date? That was pretty much the jist of my post this morning at the cakewalk.audio NNTP group.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 09:56:10
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☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/11/25 16:12:07
It was me that picked up Wookiee's post at Sonarmods and posted the link over here. If it hadn't been me, no doubt somebody else would have done it.
I was in two minds whether to do it or not, but I had absolutely no reason to doubt Wookiee's post. So I considered it a bit more than hearsay or unsubstantiated rumour.
As mudgel says, it's not something that Noel is allowed to say publicly until a formal announcement is made, so perhaps this was a way of leaking a bit of information to help allay one of the users base's biggest fears - authorization.
Wookiee hasn't yet felt the need to take down his post at Sonarmods.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 10:30:13
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☄ Helpfulby Wibbles 2017/11/25 10:37:26
For the record, this has been confirmed again as being part of the Escrow requirements of any software company in the case of end of business.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 10:42:06
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☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2017/11/25 16:12:21
I also saw Wookiee’s post and as I was over here looking for other info I came across wibbles’ post and thought it ideal to link right through all the links back to Wookiee’s post.
You try to help people and they still want to complain.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 11:12:00
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No good deed goes unpunished.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 12:38:38
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mudgel
I also saw Wookiee’s post and as I was over here looking for other info I came across wibbles’ post and thought it ideal to link right through all the links back to Wookiee’s post.
You try to help people and they still want to complain.
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No good deed goes unpunished.
Look, your efforts ARE appreciated I think. At least by me. Can you REALLY blame people for being: - Angry
- Skeptical
- Worried
- Distrustful
since the rug just got pulled out from under them out of the clear blue sky on Thanksgiving week no less? Of course, Cakewalk employees have things worse in the real life sweepstakes, and I doubt anyone would realistically deny that. But still, given the circumstances, the complete lack of reassurances from Gibson, a general lack of knowledge in the buyer's actual rights in this matter and the somewhat cryptic nature of the sticky in question (I for one had no idea what or where you were referring to at all) I think maybe you could quit complaining over a lack of appreciation and cut folks some slack, don't you? Newsflash -- this isn't easy for anyone involved. Sorry if this post seems somewhat harsh, but hey this chaos and attitude fest can be laid DIRECTLY at the feet of Gibson Inc, who have handled this (so far) about as poorly as it could have been. They make the government look efficient by comparison. Maybe THAT is something we could all agree on. Peace (from a retired non-com), Steve
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 13:40:20
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I don't think anybody was expecting a thank you.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 14:23:41
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What not a Management user buy out.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 14:27:30
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I think the sticky's are to stop the widespread panic and give Cakewalk users a sense of security (like that's possible). But at this point the sticky's are all we have as far as communication to what is going on.
With all that being said, unless it comes from a Cakewalk employee/staff, It is not going to give anyone the serenity they need. At this point, every single user here feels scorn, hurt or behooved. And I don't blame them. You have every right to feel that way.
We have people relaying messages that should be coming from cakewalk.
But just try to understand, those users are doing this in the best interest of the customers.
They are only trying to help. Any news is good news at this point.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 17:02:50
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Wibbles
I don't think anybody was expecting a thank you.
Neither do I, and I didn't mean for it to come across that way :) But thank you anyway for at least TRYING to quell people's concerns a bit. It's a decent thing to do. I'm just saying that Gibson has left us to figure this out on our own for the most part and while Cakewalk employees are out of work -- and that's terrible -- more than a few people here are having their livelihoods threatened as well which tends to make anyone nervous. Your good deed should not be punished, but I think any anger being felt here by anyone about darn near anything related to this situation can be attributed to Gibson and their shoddy, half-assed and insensitive business practices. It's one thing to shut down a subsidiary and sunset a product, it's quite another do that in this fashion with cloak and dagger messages followed by radio silence. THAT is what pisses me off personally -- because I know darn good and well someone at Gibson in a position of authority knew this was at hand, and they could have had policies and procedures all ready to be posted WITH the announcement as opposed to be radio silent and getting reassurances third hand via some other source as it is now. Does that make a little more sense? I'm not always as eloquent as I could be and i tend to fall back on my lifetime serving the armed forces (I still contract with the Army) when things get fuzzy around the edges like this so hopefully, you'll forgive that at this point.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 17:32:06
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timidi
titled:
Important info regarding Sonar Activation
It is nothing more than here-say and means nothing and is misleading.
Agreed 100%. It's hear-say and with a locked thread we can't even say that.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 17:41:15
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 17:42:08
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☄ Helpfulby stratman70 2017/11/25 18:15:28
If you care to check the update it will take you to a Facebook page where Noel himself confirms the information. That is not hearsay.
The reason the thread is locked is simply that make it easier to update. No one has taken away anyone’s ability to discuss, debate, disparage, deny any of the information contained in it.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 17:46:11
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The claim that we will get a magic unlock file is meaningless regardless of who it comes from until we actually have that magic file. I don't believe that Noel is making up what he is saying or that he doesn't have the best intentions in mind. The problem is that it rarely works out that cleanly in real life. Escrow introduces a ton of complications about what the thing held in escrow actually is, the quality of it, the trigger conditions for release, how airtight those conditions are, the legal recourse if it is not released, etc.. All it takes is one Gibson exec get wind of it and say no and then what happens? I'm not saying there is no chance we will get the unlock file -- just that there are a pile of complications that could easily get in the way of that. It's not anything that any of us should be banking on at this point.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 17:50:44
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titled:
Important info regarding Sonar Activation
It is nothing more than here-say and means nothing and is misleading.
Agreed 100%. It's hear-say and with a locked thread we can't even say that.
What’s this thread full of it’s its not people debating the voracity of the thread. And clearly you’ve added your stamp without reading the updated sticky. Which is not hearsay.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 17:55:11
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timidi
titled:
Important info regarding Sonar Activation
It is nothing more than here-say and means nothing and is misleading.
Agreed 100%. It's hear-say and with a locked thread we can't even say that.
What’s this thread full of it’s its not people debating the voracity of the thread. And clearly you’ve added your stamp without reading the updated sticky. Which is not hearsay.
If Noel said it here in the official forum somewhere then I'd be more confident. I don't actually know for sure who owns that FaceBook account. hear·say ˈhirˌsā/ noun
information received from other people that one cannot adequately substantiate; rumor.
"adequately substantiate"
is the key phrase ... in my opinion.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 18:02:58
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Well go and check it out. People have linked to it, made copies of the text and pasted it here. To be honest you’d be no more sure if another admin used Noel’s account and posted it the info here using his name. At some point things have to be taken at face value and I have no reason to think that the Noel on the Facebook pages or the one pm’d by Wookiee are imposters.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 18:06:24
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To be honest you’d be no more sure if another admin used Noel’s account and posted it the info here using his name. Yes. That's correct. When I have an official fix then I'll be sure. :-)
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 18:15:22
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I’ll be glad once this is all over.
It’s sure not productive except giving people the opportunity to vent. But all the talk doesn’t get anywhere nor does it allay any of the anxieties.
I too wish for a formal response but until then I’ll take any glimmer of news that tells me that I’ll have a working program with no activation problems.
The rest is all speculation and hot air.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 18:36:43
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It just needs to be reworded. It's not a fact. It's a "maybe". Some will accept it as fact because the word "definitely" is used, but the reality is, Gibson can do what it wants to do -- and giving out a permanent activation code may not be part of their plans.
Those users accepting it as fact could understandably make no "Plan B" for themselves. What happens to those users, say, six months from now if Noel is told he can't do what he promised, and we won't have access to our products?
People need to know where they stand. Right now, there's nothing definite about it.
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Re: Please take down the sticky above
2017/11/25 18:49:12
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Noel’s use of the term normal escrow implies there is some legal underpinning to what must be done under these circumstances. Something that not even Gibson can sidestep. I also infer this from the fact that a small team is left at Cakewalk. Add to this, there have been numerous reports of folks on the pay to own plan whose Sonar about page now says owned instead of an expiry date.
Whether I’m right or not we’ll see but I’m sure there’s Bakers working at things behind the scenes and when they have something to tell us and they’re allowed to comment here, they will.
I don’t understand why people want to be negative. Too many people getting worked up over what they haven’t got a clue about.
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