it's in the middle of Atlantic now ....

Done!

bapu,
 
I've just edited the first post, as suggested by Jeff M. to change Dave's email with (at) and (dot) to prevent web crawlers harvesting email add. Can you edit your post with the quote as well ? Thanks!

Jeff M.
 
Thanks, done!

-Current summary-
Total of pledges : 24
Total of payment sent : 22
 
Dave informed me that there is one person sending more than $10/= :) you know who you are!
 
Just one payment is slightly below $10/= possibly due to conversion rate / or commission charged by PayPal. So the rest of the payment is good - no commission charged by PayPal.
 
We've meet the target of 2 plugs : Timeless 2 and Pro-MB
 
We be heading to the next plug or bundle. As mentioned earlier, the pledge is good till Valentine's Day or when we reach 53 pledges. May I also add - optionally at anytime earlier when Dave says so.
 
Then I shall inform Fab Filter so they may send Dave a custom link to order the plugs/bundle.
 
Cheers!

This is an awesome concept to help a very helpful guy.  I wish i could contribute but my finances suck at the moment.

John
I have all sorts of reservations about this. The forum should not make a habit of this.

What John said.  But, yeah, I'm in for ten.

Just stumbled accross this.  I am in.  I've been active in the forum since back in the newsgroup days but I only tend to visit it when I'm in trouble (like this week).  When I do come here this is a guy I remember always stopping to help me.  Worth every cent.

I just came across this thread today. Bit do you still need the referral? I will help you out too, but again your advise could prove valuable.

I have the complete Nomad bundle. And I also recently got the IK Total bundle. So what plug from FF would be more desirable to you if you were in this situation?

I wasn't able to understand after reading this thread first then reading the other thread and coming back.to this one. I lost track of what to do!!

But mix you should have gotten a pm from me right?

Sent in. In da mail!!

[edit] I saw your pm mix.

Vastman
Wow! this is cool... I've gotten lots of bits from the flipper... count me it! Sent...gotta go do a "bit" of gardening to pay for it but nothing bitter about that!  
 
I think this is "fab"ulous!

I see what you did there 

I'm in the camp that believes all EQs are the same. Well, that's a little too broad - differences do exist, but they are in the number of features and the user interface, just not in the filters themselves (assuming they're properly implemented). Pro-Q touts great filters (with a name like FabFilter they'd better be) but in truth there are plenty of high-end EQs out there with filters that are just as good. (Ignore anything you read about "cramping" near Nyquist - it doesn't apply to quality equalizers.)
 
Pro-Q will not magically make mixes sound better, any more than any other equalizer will. If you know what you're doing, SONAR's bundled EQs are more than adequate.
 
That said, I have to admit that Pro-Q is almost the only equalizer I use. Here's why:
 
1. Efficiency. Having 30 or 40 instances in a project is no problem, even on my low-spec machine. Part of this efficiency is from using your video adapter's GPU for graphical acceleration. With my other plugins that feature spectral animation, CPU usage is noticeably higher when the visuals are turned on. With Pro-Q there is no obvious difference in CPU whether the spectrum is enabled or not.
 
2. Ease-of-use. As with all FabFilter products, the UI is ergonomic, fast and friendly. For example, I use the band-solo feature a lot, and although that feature isn't unique to Pro-Q it's implemented very well. Using the mouse's scroll wheel to vary the bandwidth while soloing makes it easy to zero in on offensive resonances. Scroll wheel works for all knobs, too. There are other basic features that should be standard on all EQs but aren't, such as being able to type in precise values for any parameter, hiding controls that aren't needed, un-do and re-do, A/B comparison, and ctl-click reset. The UI size is just right, IMO: not too tiny for my old eyes, not so big that I can't fit several instances onscreen. The spectral display can be either pre- or post-EQ, and offers four vertical scalings. Metering is pretty good, too.
 
3. Mid/Side processing. Another feature you don't see on every EQ, and again very well-implemented. You can have any combination of filters that apply only to the Mid component, only to the Side, or both, and all are displayed together in a visually clear manner. Ozone's EQ, by comparison, also has M/S support but you can only see M or S at one time, so you can't easily see where they overlap. Before I had an M/S-aware EQ I didn't know what I was missing. Now I use it quite a lot, especially for mastering. You can also use Pro-Q as a broad M/S balance control for narrowing or widening the stereo image.
 
4. The Filters. Although some complain that Pro-Q lacks some filter options (e.g. no Baxandall) I don't miss them. Some of my other EQs such as Meldaproduction's MDynamicEQ and Voxengo's GlissEQ offer exotic filter types (e.g. band-shelf, harmonic series) but I rarely use them. Pro-Q lets you have up to 24 filters (!) with continuously-variable slopes up to 48dB/oct, so it's possible to create just about any shape you want. You can choose between linear- or minimum-phase, zero-latency or variable latency. Filters can be applied to just the left or right channels if needed. Everything can be automated.
 
What's missing from Pro-Q? Certainly nothing I need. Some whiners complain about the lack of upsampling, but they apparently don't understand what oversampling is for or they'd realize Pro-Q doesn't need it. A resizable UI would be nice, but as I said the existing size is just right for me. I've read complaints that Pro-Q is too clinical and adds no color - as if that was a weakness! If you want harmonic distortion, use a distortion plugin. GlissEQ remains unique in its ability to stack multiple spectra; Pro-Q doesn't have this, but AFAIK nobody else does, either. It would be a cool feature. Pro-Q is also not dynamic, but I think making a separate plugin was a smarter move than sticking it into Pro-Q.
 
That's about all I can say about Pro-Q at this time; the above is all from memory as I have no working DAW at the moment.
 
 

bitflipper
 
The best demo policy around.
 
What you don't have in the IKM bundle is something like the uber-delay Timeless 2. Maybe you don't need it. I mean, in all honesty it's serious overkill for what most people do with delays. Watch Dan Worrall's videos (which only skim the surface) and if you're not scared off by those, then I'd suggest Timeless might fill a hole in your toolkit you didn't even know you had.
 

Thanks Dave for the help. That demo policy does look good. Never knew that.  And to be honest, I have not gotten any of these plugs before because of price. I just couldn't justify the purchase. But every time you mentioned them I would go look at them!! I got the whole Nomad bundle and the IK bundle cheaper that the Timeless plug!!
 
The difference today was that on your advise I spent the time to watch Dan's video, and OMG!! That was just part one! What that plug can do is something I would have never thought of a delay doing!! The possibilities with just that one plug is phenomenal! I mean it just floored me!! I'm still stunned by the creativeness of that plug!!
 
And the way you describe the Pro Q plug has me very interested also. I'm going to watch that video as well.
 
I won't get all of them. It's just too much for what I do. What I have will do me fine. But I am definitely re-thinking my plug in strategy. Maybe just a few good plugs that have all the UI covered is better than all these choices I have now? Something to think about.
 
Again Dave, thanks for your insight.
 

Yeh, I use a low cut much more often than a shelf. Easy solution, though: I just put in the low cut and saved it as the default so that every time I insert Pro-Q there's automatically a low-cut in place. 
 
A bigger meter would be nice, but I usually stick SPAN in at the end of the fx chain, regardless of which plugins preceed it. And of course in a pinch I understand that SONAR has some meters, too.
 
As for the "see all the numerical data of all the nodes all at once" wish, I agree that could be handy, but it's the price of an uncluttered display and high maximum node count. It's one of the things I like about Pro-Q versus traditional EQs that show all the knobs all the time (which is feasible only because of their small - and fixed - number of bands).
 
Checking each node without selecting is still very easy, just wave the mouse over them.
 
I did think of one other missing feature that would be nice, and that's displaying a frequency as a note value. That's a nifty feature of GlissEQ. But once again, SPAN provides that functionality too. SPAN is, after all, the spectral display portion of GlissEQ.