PlugIns Missing - How to find out which?

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PlugIns Missing - How to find out which?

HI:)
 
I have an older file (3-4 years ago) and now at the start there's an error with PlugIns missing!
 
But:
 
In the Project I renamed the missing Synths and called them Bass and Organ, so now at loading the file Sonar is missing Bass and Organ:)
 
How can I find out which Synths I used years ago for that file?
 
Thanks a lot:)
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    karhide
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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 06:03:51 (permalink)
    Do theyou have to be the same?

    Sounds like you have enough detail in the name to be able to load a plugin and know what type of patch to use. If.you dimension installed it might be a good place to start.

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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 06:12:03 (permalink)
    @karhide
     
    For sure I have the mixed Wave and I can mix it again with similar Instruments, but I had a great sounding Organ and can't remember which synth it was. Don't know why I forgot to freeze the synths too:(
     
    thanks,
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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 06:58:07 (permalink)
    You never know it might turn out better than before!

    I often go back to old projects and remix with newer tools and it's very refreshing and exciting almost like working on a new track :)

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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 08:38:23 (permalink)
    No, there is no easy way to determine what synths were used.
     
    (Here's one possible method: name associations appear to be in library.db, which can be viewed with a hex editor. User-supplied plugin names are preceded by an MD5 hash that corresponds to the clsidPlugMD5 value in the registry, which in turn identifies the original name of the DLL. Like I said, no easy way.)
     
    Faced with your dilemma, I would substitute other instruments. As suggested above, it's quite likely the project would be improved. When I first got the OTS Rick bass I dropped it into an old throw-away project to test it out. It was such an enormous improvement that I ended up resurrecting the project, re-recording the bass part and remixing the whole thing. The end result was that a previously written-off project ended up being a finished song.
     
    P.S. If we're talking traditional Hammond organ, grab VB3. It's only 50 bucks and the best Hammond emulation I've ever heard.
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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 12:24:40 (permalink)
    @bitflipper
     
    (Here's one possible method: name associations appear to be in library.db, which can be viewed with a hex editor. User-supplied plugin names are preceded by an MD5 hash that corresponds to the clsidPlugMD5 value in the registry, which in turn identifies the original name of the DLL. Like I said, no easy way.)
     
    That's ugly yes:)  
     
    Ok! I'll mix it with newer instruments, that's the easier way! 
     
    Found 3 library.db`s but from other times I opened the file, so I can't find any organ in there f.e.  too difficult.
     
    thank you;)
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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 13:00:17 (permalink)
    @Bassman just have fun working on the new mix and let it take you somewhere new :) 

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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 13:31:45 (permalink)
    The easiest solution, if you can remember to do it, is to keep notes. There is a track text field that might be useful, or you can use a pen and paper log. 
     
    While the advice to just start over when this happens is probably easier still, it flies in the face of the FIRST LAW OF SONAR:
    The take that you cannot recover is always the best take you have ever heard. 
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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/24 22:21:38 (permalink)
    slartabartfast
     
    While the advice to just start over when this happens is probably easier still, it flies in the face of the FIRST LAW OF SONAR:
    The take that you cannot recover is always the best take you have ever heard. 




    Haha - and the magical transformation from average to ultimate take only ever happens after it is lost.

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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/25 01:38:05 (permalink)
    It's a pity that it's not possible to identify a missing softsynth by its unique VST ID. For missing fx plugins, you can double-click on the greyed-out plugin in the FX Bin to bring up a dialog box that includes the ID. But for VST softsyths in the Synth Rack, double-clicking doesn't bring up anything.

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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/25 02:49:21 (permalink)
    HI:)
     
    For bitflipper wrote about the "Library.db" I had the idea to read the Project ".cwp" file with a HEX-Editor and:
     
    Here we are:)
     
    Just search for the name of the PlugIn, "Bass" and "Organ" in my case and on the left of the name is written the real name of the synth, on the right the Preset you used!! Great:)
     
    For me it was Trilian for the Bass and Aranami2 for the Organ. OK, I've worked with Trilian years ago, not any more, but I have never heard from a synth called Aranami:(  Obviously I used it, I must have used it:)  I have to look for...for I regularly make Backups from all Cakewalk related Dirs (Content, Vsts, ProgramData a.s.o.), there must be at least a DLL from it....hopefully registered..
     
    Thanks to all!
    Bassman.
     
     
     
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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/27 04:36:56 (permalink)
    HI:)
     
    It's just logical, everything must be written in the cwp file, every used synth, every used plugin, every used clip a.s.o.
     
    Nice that It's cleartype:)
     
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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/27 06:58:58 (permalink)
    cmiiw but i seem to remember pre-x series that the missing plugin name was still shown in the UI, but greyed out? or maybe i just dreamt that?

    just a sec

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    Re: PlugIns Missing - How to find out which? 2016/09/27 06:59:30 (permalink)
    cmiiw but i seem to remember pre-x series that the missing plugin name was still shown in the UI, but greyed out? or maybe i just dreamt that?

    just a sec

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