craigb
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Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
Vote away! 1) Yes. 2) Hell yes! 3) Absolutely and repeatedly! As if their incredibly poor actual bandwidth compared to what you pay for isn't enough, they now have a flippin' data cap! Comcast executives have admitted that its purpose is to simply wring more money out of their customers and they feel they can get away with it since they are usually a monopoly in the areas they provide service.  The cap here is 1 TB which sounds like a lot (and Comcast is trying to make everyone think that only 1% will exceed this, except all the forum comments I've read show this isn't close to true - especially for gamers with consoles). The overage is $10 per 50 GB over up to $200!  Needless to say, I just started a Carbonite backup subscription so I blew through the data cap easily with over 4 TB's still to be uploaded. Yay.  Once all the votes are in I can start another thread on HOW we should torture the execs...
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bapu
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 05:57:07
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I've never used cable for internet. I have Frontier (formerly Verison FIOS). For $96/mo I get this out of my 75/75 plan. 
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bapu
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 05:58:08
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☼ Best Answerby craigb 2017/03/26 06:47:59
It says I'm faster than 96% of the US and I think The Lovely Lady agrees.
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craigb
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 07:02:52
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 This was the crap I had last night. WTF is up with a 200+ ms ping???!!!
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 07:38:27
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I say that we get all of the Big ISP's and say yes to all 3:)
All they want is money.....they will squeeze a penny until it screams...
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 13:11:54
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Use Acronis and a usb drive.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 14:14:45
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Frontier FIOS user here, too. I elected to go with the 40GB/s plan to save money, but at that rate we can easily watch 4 different TV shows on Netflix at the same time. More important, I can download a large sample library in less than 10 minutes. Fiber up to the house, then CAT5 to my router. The 40 GB figure is no exaggeration, nor is it intermittent. Unlike cable-based internet, it isn't affected much by how many other users are on. The speed at 3 AM is the same as at 8 PM.
Prior to this, I had DSL (!) for many years, stuck there because I needed static IP addresses for my business. With DSL, it took 3.5 days to download Kirk Hunter Concert Strings.
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BobF
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 16:37:59
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DSL continues to be my only option here ... As far as caps and pricing go, why blame the execs? What about those pesky employees that keep wanting more pay and bennies?  IMO, this is a side effect of net neutrality. They tried to charge by type ... now we'll pay more for everything
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craigb
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 17:27:13
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Note that this isn't about speed, but usage. It's like having a cap on how many miles you can drive on the freeway even though you're already paying for the car, taxes and gas.
We're not talking about a finite resource like gas or oil, the limitations are purely artificial and implemented (as the executives freely admit) purely to screw consumers out of more money because they don't have any alternative choices.
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craigb
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 17:32:49
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bitman
Use Acronis and a usb drive.
That's what caused me to lose many TB's of data. The external drive got corrupted AND the copy of that drive got corrupted. Fortunately, I still had the information on my computer for the most important stuff or I would have been royally screwed. There are two big differences with Carbonite. The first is that the data is stored on the cloud and available from anywhere (while the external drive could easily be stolen or damaged). The second is that (after the initial backup) it stays on top of the backups to the point where you finish editing a file and it's backed up in just a few minutes afterwards. Very few people run their backups every day let alone multiple times per day. Now, if I accidentally delete a file I created a few minutes earlier, there's a good chance I can get it back.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 18:54:29
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Comcast needs to be spanked. If it's not sh**ty connection speed or sh**ty customer service, they bombard me with upgrade spam. And they also have some poor minimum wage wretch calling me to ask if I want their TV service (I stream) the answer is a big no.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 18:55:11
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craigb
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 19:02:44
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Bapu's lucky he doesn't have Comcast.  (Heck, he'd probably only have 25,000 posts if he did! )
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BobF
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 20:02:01
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craigb
bitman
Use Acronis and a usb drive.
That's what caused me to lose many TB's of data. The external drive got corrupted AND the copy of that drive got corrupted. Fortunately, I still had the information on my computer for the most important stuff or I would have been royally screwed.
There are two big differences with Carbonite. The first is that the data is stored on the cloud and available from anywhere (while the external drive could easily be stolen or damaged). The second is that (after the initial backup) it stays on top of the backups to the point where you finish editing a file and it's backed up in just a few minutes afterwards. Very few people run their backups every day let alone multiple times per day. Now, if I accidentally delete a file I created a few minutes earlier, there's a good chance I can get it back.
Try Reflect with a USB drive ... I switched from Acronis to Reflect a while back. I like it much betterer No matter how little I had to pay, my 4Mb/.75Mb connection would be worthless for online backups. Hell, Firing up a new Win10 machine basically puts my network OOS for anything else for a good 2 days.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 23:09:48
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BobF
Hell, Firing up a new Win10 machine basically puts my network OOS for anything else for a good 2 days.
When we moved our ISP has data caps. My wife's machine is on Windows 10 and we had set it up for a 'metered connection' to avoid costly updates. Microsoft has now decided that it doesn't matter if you are on a metered connection or not- you will get their updates. Came real close to an overage last month thanks to this. Looking at trying to get her to switch to Linux or downgrading to Windows 7 - where we can at least have some control over the computer.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/26 23:32:22
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bitman
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/27 01:14:02
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My next door neighbor is a Comcast installer / tech. "I'm on a hey how's it goin" basis with him.
They must pay well for this position (I see them digging out street side pedestals buried in 4' of snow plow crud with shovels) as these homes here aren't cheap and she's a stay at home mom. He's good to have around though.
We also get referral payments from the mother ship for referring businesses to Comcast from dsl.
That's the rosey part.
Some years ago when we switched from dsl to cable at our office we told em we need a block of statics as we have more than a few server boxes here. The installer they sent out did not know what a static ip was nor how to configure the modem accordingly. I told him maybe he should call in for reinforcements because I don't want customer's services to be down too much longer. he actually said "Well I have to learn sometime" - whaaaat?
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craigb
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/27 01:33:14
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BobF
craigb
bitman
Use Acronis and a usb drive.
That's what caused me to lose many TB's of data. The external drive got corrupted AND the copy of that drive got corrupted. Fortunately, I still had the information on my computer for the most important stuff or I would have been royally screwed.
There are two big differences with Carbonite. The first is that the data is stored on the cloud and available from anywhere (while the external drive could easily be stolen or damaged). The second is that (after the initial backup) it stays on top of the backups to the point where you finish editing a file and it's backed up in just a few minutes afterwards. Very few people run their backups every day let alone multiple times per day. Now, if I accidentally delete a file I created a few minutes earlier, there's a good chance I can get it back.
Try Reflect with a USB drive ...
I switched from Acronis to Reflect a while back. I like it much betterer
No matter how little I had to pay, my 4Mb/.75Mb connection would be worthless for online backups. Hell, Firing up a new Win10 machine basically puts my network OOS for anything else for a good 2 days.
Actually, I had Macrium Reflect, but the backup software wasn't the problem. The external drive bay was. The point either way is that now it's being redundantly backed up in the Cloud and I can get multiple versions of any file I need from anywhere there's an internet connection (once the initial backup is done that is!).
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/27 10:56:14
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Comcast has been fighting net neutrality for as long they've offered internet access over their wires. Finding loopholes in the existing law, illegally throttling bandwidth, making backroom deals with Netflix and Hulu, financing the so-called "Restoring Internet Freedom Act", contributing to politicians that support internet deregulation.
Comcast is just trying to squeeze another dollar out of you, and if they can pull it off without actually providing service, so much the better. Imagine if they started charging you extra because you watch too much TV. OK, that might not be such a bad thing...
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/29 21:00:40
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I'm on Comcast/Xfinity on my laptop downstairs. Router upstairs... don't know if it's good or bad but it seems fast enough.  IDK... seems to work. I update my DAW which is about 4 ft away with an ASUS USB WIFI adapter and it is never slow. Should I be happy or mad? Just let me know... J
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craigb
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/29 23:54:27
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Bandwidth speed is important of course, but this topic was about being penalized for using your bandwidth.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/30 15:19:06
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Craig,
I'm going to need you to define "torture" before I can answer.
Are we talking GitMo tactics, or having them listen to the music that Comcast distributes and forces on us?
In other words, are you suggesting the "Saddam Hussain" or the "Manuel Noreiga?"
I know there are some "musicians" they stream who would be more painful than electrocution, but the delineation would be beneficial for an accurate judgement...
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BobF
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/30 15:33:16
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craigb
Bandwidth speed is important of course, but this topic was about being penalized for using your bandwidth.
The math is obviously different, but when I worked in wireless telecom we went thru great expense to make sure there was sufficient trunking and voice channel capacity to support seize/hold times. Even as we moved to wireless data we had caps in place to ensure somebody wasn't setting up their own little ISP at our expense. Of course the caps were really high as to only curtail the most egregious abuse of our good nature At a given BW, the total data consumption in an internet pipe gives something approximately like voice seize/hold times. Transport facilities and routing equipment aren't free. As such, the networks aren't built to support 100% utilization. I have no idea what total caps would make sense. 1TB sounds like a lot to me, but I'm not backing multiple terrabytes to the cloud either.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/30 15:34:04
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For me Comcast is horrible, but the best option for internet.
AT&T is horrible, criminal at best, but the best option for cell service.
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/31 19:09:59
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For me Comcast is horrible, but the best option for internet.
AT&T is horrible, criminal at best, but the best option for cell service.
That's about right... and it is all WAY too expensive but they know they have us hooked. J
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/31 19:50:44
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My broadband in the UK (Sky broadband) has a heavy cap on its upload speed, but its still one of the few remaining services in its price range that doesnt have download limits: 
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craigb
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Re: Poll: Should Comcast Executives Be Tortured?
2017/03/31 21:28:38
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Well, when you're only getting 82.5 kilobytes of upload speed, how could you ever use too much bandwidth anyway???
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