Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll do it

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2015/09/18 07:19:05 (permalink)

Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll do it

I'm still on X3 e Producer and I'm wondering if the new piano roll in SONAR can do that 
 
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    Re: Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll d 2015/09/18 09:32:33 (permalink)
    Not by manual entry, you can of course capture anything via keyboard

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    Re: Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll d 2015/09/18 10:25:09 (permalink)
    Or lots of vst options
    Cthulhu is $39. I don't use the chord feature, but it's a great arpeggiator too-

    https://www.xferrecords.com/products/cthulhu

    Or something like this (free) with both 32 bit and 64 bit versions-

    http://www.codefn42.com/chordz/index.html

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    Re: Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll d 2015/09/18 13:39:49 (permalink)
    Bristol_Jonesey
    Not by manual entry, you can of course capture anything via keyboard




    @Bristal Jonesey 
     
    That is kinda what I have been doing lately when playing keyboards , thanks 
     
    Brando
    Or lots of vst options
    Cthulhu is $39. I don't use the chord feature, but it's a great arpeggiator too-

    https://www.xferrecords.com/products/cthulhu

    Or something like this (free) with both 32 bit and 64 bit versions-

    http://www.codefn42.com/chordz/index.html



    @Brando 
     
    I just got done watching the Cthulu video ….
     
    That looks pretty good , it is  different than what I was thinking of doing , yet right up my alley as a tool I could put to good use .
    The other plug you mentioned I will also look into …..
     
    Here's what got me on to starting this thread .
     
    I downloaded a program called Helio Workstation by Peter Rudenko 
    it is free and is Windows and Mac and I have it on both platforms 
    http://helioworkstation.com 
     
    it is a very cool little app and I like it ….if you look under where it says Rock it out and click the screen shot you will see that it brings up the relationships of the triads ….
    with one click you can have all the standard Diatonic chord inversions within the key of the one chord you are about to input  ….it makes it very easy to stack very harmonically complex chord inversions w one or two clicks …
    I happen to like the music Peter has done w it . So I'm giving this app a go as far as checking it out ….
    in less than 2 hours I was able to do things that smoked anything I could have done in a standard piano roll ….
    Admittedly  this program is a tough nut to crack since there is no documentation and it is more like a step sequencer ….it takes a bit of getting used to …it renders midi , and a few audio files so anything I do in it I can transfer it over …also it imports midis …
    I sort of wish somebody would hire this guy to spruce up the piano roll and add that diatonic chord audition feature 
    ………no affiliation….just digging it …. 
     
    have a good one , 
     
    Kenny
    post edited by kennywtelejazz - 2015/09/18 13:54:09

                       
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    Re: Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll d 2015/09/18 15:32:34 (permalink)
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    Not by manual entry, you can of course capture anything via keyboard


    +1, there are some VSTs that will "work" with MIDI output enabled, but is still real time and often more overhead than it's worth. MIDI controllers are the quickest method for chord entry.

    The "chord track" feature request has yet to be implemented.
    post edited by mettelus - 2015/09/18 15:41:36

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    Re: Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll d 2015/09/18 22:18:44 (permalink)
    @mettelus 
     
    Is it safe for me to assume that what I'm asking about is pretty much along the lines of The " chord track " feature that has yet to be implemented ?
     
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    Re: Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll d 2015/09/18 23:51:41 (permalink)
    Correct, this is one of the feature requests (it has been mentioned several times). I apologize as I was on my phone earlier, so my replies get very curt.
     
    There are several VSTs which allow you fire chords with single notes, but the ones I have played with require some setup and for the transport to be running to record (the VST's MIDI output).
     
    Bottom line, it is more efficient to actually play them (or get fast on the PRV).
     
    If the guy who made this would allow exporting that MIDI, life would be good (simplistic and effective, but no export ).

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    Re: Polyphonic note / chord entry w one click does the newest version of The Piano Roll d 2015/09/20 11:21:46 (permalink)
    Hello mettelus , 
     
    Say , thanks for taking the time to explain things to me 
    It seems to me that all the worthwhile approaches lead back to learning how to play the keyboards ….
    I guess if Grandma Moses can learn how to paint at 78 I can learn how to play the Key's at 29 ooopps I mean twice 29 
     
    have a good one , 
     
    Kenny

                       
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