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Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
So this is kind of weird and maybe someone can give me some insight. Last night I decided to play around with GR5 as a standalone (just wanted to check out some more of the effects, amps and most importantly Control Room Pro). I had set my Focusrite Scarlett 18i6 to the 6 ms setting because I have been doing some editing and for obvious reasons it was giving me some latency while playing through GR5. So I set it back down to 1ms (it's lowest setting) which I had used to track within Sonar without any problems (multiple tracks with multiple instances of GR5 AND a Session Drummer track). I started getting some serious pops, clicks and distortion. I set it to 2 ms and all was well with insignificant latency but I'm curious, how could one instance of GR5 with no DAW running cause these problems when multiple instances, audio and MIDI not cause them. It's weird. In all cases I was using the HI setting so that's not the issue. No biggie. Just curious. Hope you are all having a good weekend.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 13:25:38
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BTW Control Room Pro is really cool. It makes the program soooo much better sounding. No point using the regular cabs by themselves. Looks like TH2s cab features are gonna be a lot better though.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 13:54:06
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have a wireless card beeper? turn it odd in device manager.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 14:00:35
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@chuck... Nope. I did a bunch of optimization stuff but I have a feeling there is a lot more I could do. I gotta get around to using that latency checker tool at some point and really take a close look at the whole system but I'm gonna wait until I blow up the system. I want to start from scratch with everything I've learned so far but for now things are working well enough for my purposes. Anyway, it's good to see you, Chuck. I haven't seen you posting much lately. Hope everything is well. I might have a track for you to check out soon. Just taking my time to really get my flow going and understand the little doodads and whatnots. It's taking forever but I think it's worthwhile. Cheers.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 14:07:24
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 14:12:02
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@scook... Okay, I thought it might be something like that. So essentially Sonar just handles the workload better? That's kind of a drag for live performers. Thanks for the link. I don't know what I was thinking unchecking the newsletter option. Cheers.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 14:16:21
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Huh, not sure if that worked. After I typed in my email I got this... "You do not currently have any Cakewalk subscriptions, to sign up for Cakewalk news, promotions and product tips please visit http://www.cakewalk.com/newsletter.aspx" I'll figure it out. Cheers, scook.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 14:26:30
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That would be my guess. In my case 1 or 2 milliseconds would not make much difference for live performance. Moreover, there might be some tradeoff being made between performance and stability.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 14:41:23
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Actually that 2ms setting translates to around 12ms roundtrip. Not sure why those settings are labeled the way they are. At 12ms it's not really enough to notice but I don't think it would work so well on a not so nice system.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/16 15:14:56
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If you talking about a machine with a lesser CPU and memory, I doubt that is going to impact GR5 as much as SONAR. I would imagine the GR5 would work just fine on a single core CPU and much less RAM. GR4 worked great on my old Pentium with 1GB.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/17 12:42:49
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I find this interesting. I tried to use GR4 again the other day to compare to TH2. I have my presonus 44vsl set to 128 samples which give me 7.3ms roundtrip and the latency just kills me. It sounds like 12.2 ms roundtrip isn't bothering you much with your focusrite. Do I have something set wrong in GR4? Is there a performance issue with my presonus? Or does the latency just bother me more than you?
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/17 12:58:26
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I couldn't see anyone being that sensitive to 7.3. That's about what I get at the lowest setting with the Scarlett and it's just like I'm plugged into my amp. Even at 12ms I have to really strain to hear the latency. Is it only when you are using GR as a standalone?
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/17 13:11:09
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playing live with sonar is what I want to do is there anyone using sonar to host amp sims live?
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/17 17:49:17
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I'll check later and make sure I'm not doing something stupid. I was running it in Sonar. My latency with GR4 is very noticable. TH2 was running just fine.
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Re:Pops and click at low latency using GR5 as a standalone but not as a plug?
2012/09/17 22:59:36
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Stupid is as stupid does! Ok what i was hearing was the aweful reverb and "air" on the Fender amp. I turned all of that completely off and used the sonitus reverb and presto! A very useable Fender tone from GR4. I learn something everyday from reading on this forum.
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