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2009/07/06 20:23:42 (permalink)

Position of title song

I know this will be a very subjective issue - but here goes. What are the thoughts out there about the position of the title track in a CD. I see that some commercial CD's / artists will have the title song as the first track, others not until the 3rd, etc... for those mastering experts out there - is there an "average"......

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    dlogan
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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/06 20:39:13 (permalink)
    At least 3rd - if it's your first song and it's the title song, people are going to assume that's as good as it gets!!

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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/06 21:48:39 (permalink)
    Only one important question IMO... where does it fit in with the rest of the material?

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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/06 23:00:31 (permalink)
    I would put it in the top 3 or dead last.
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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/07 00:16:50 (permalink)
    Hidden bonus track 15 minutes after the last song fades out. Just come at it from a different angle. Everybody loves hidden bonus unlisted tracks. It's cool.
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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/07 00:22:52 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: montezuma
    Everybody loves hidden bonus unlisted tracks. It's cool.


    Not me! I've got some CDs with so-called hidden tracks I've never been able to play!

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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/07 00:56:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: wogg

    Only one important question IMO... where does it fit in with the rest of the material?


    Agreed. It shouldn't matter at all except how it flows as a complete work.

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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/07 05:56:24 (permalink)
    If it's a pumping, in-yer-face number, then by all means build up to it with your first 2 songs and put it third.

    But not if this conflicts with the flow of the album as a whole - this to me is of paramount importance.

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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/07 18:43:00 (permalink)

    ORIGINAL: montezuma

    Hidden bonus track 15 minutes after the last song fades out. Just come at it from a different angle. Everybody loves hidden bonus unlisted tracks. It's cool.


    ...says someone who hasn't listened to songs on shuffle, and be interrupted by 15 minutes of silence?

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    RE: Position of title song 2009/07/08 10:10:22 (permalink)
    It really belongs where it fits in the collection, but personally I like to put it dead last, for climactic effect. I've caught a lot of heat from manager/producer types who say I could've done a lot better to put it up front, but I just don't get that. How can an album sell better based on how the songs are arranged? Like Marcie is going to say to Sally, "Don't buy Thriller... the title song doesn't show up until song #4!"

    A quick looksie at the best selling albums of all time which feature a title track shows no particular pattern:

    1. Thriller - song #4
    2. Back in Black - song #5
    3. Bat out of Hell - song #1
    4. Phantom of the Opera - song #6
    5. Come on Over - song #6
    6. Sgt. Pepper - song #1
    7. Falling into You - song #3
    8. Music Box (Mariah Carey, not Genesis ) - song #4
    9. Dangerous - song #14 (last)
    10. Let's Talk About Love - song #14 (last)

    So there you have it. You can't blame poor album sales on bad song placement. I'm gonna march into my manager's office and tellim my album bombed because it flat out sucked! Huh!

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