Positive Grid BIAS Amp and BIAS FX users

I have a feeling that possibly next week we may have some Marshall JCM900, Messa Roadking and Engl Fireball amps to play with . . . ssshhhh . . . A little birdie told me
 
I am so looking forward to that, these guys make awesome stuff.

hmmmm, that is odd, I will shoot Livio a message and see what's going on. There was an issue with installation after Positive Grid changed something in one of the latest BIAS Amp updates, which required a different installation method, plus I pointed out an issue with 9 of the patches in the Suhr Volume 5 set where the icons were not showing up in the preset menu, easily fixable by just replacing the icon.png file with one from the other presets in the Volume.
 
Plus they are also about to release some new packs, but I doubt they would need to take them down for that. Will let you know the response.

Got the response

Hi Jeff, we're currently updating our Bias Section. Will be back in few days.

Livio @ Choptones

So there it is, hopefully when it's back up the new packs will be there, chatting with him the other day he said they would be released next week.

Bias has way more actual amp adjustments than any other sim. I'm not sure that some of them do anything. As a guy that designs and builds amps I know what the changes should sound like and I know that some of the options don't actually have a direct effect on the sound because they actually effect something that you are more likely to feel than hear.
 
It's a very flashy interface to be sure, but that's the best part for me. I tried using it along with a recent build and the sound it produced was nothing like the actual amp sound. The real test is not from modelling high distortion amps but from clean amps where you can actually hear changes.
 
Of course I am biased. A pal of mine uses Bias live on small gigs and he has great ears, so it must be good. I just don't hear it.

To me it doesn't matter what it's called (amp Sim) what it's modeled on (Marshall, Mesa, Fender, Laney . . . ) whether it does or does not sound like what it is supposedly modeled after, whether the 'electronics' work as they do/should in the real world, none of that makes any difference. To me it is just the same as any FX, a stomp box, and FX rack, whatever, it is just something you play your guitar through and the resulting sound is good, pleasing to your ears.To me BIAS Amp Pro, BIAS FX Pro, TH2 and TH3 sound head and shoulders above everything else, and I do own most of what is available in the software world, that's my personal opinion.
 
As I said in the IK Mic modeler thread (I think) it doesn't matter to me what they call it, what they say it is, what they say it's made to emulate, I couldn't care less if they said it was modeled after a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier or a Dead Tree Branch, the only thing that matters is it is something I put in my signal chain and play my guitar through and it sounds better than it did before, it's that simple.
 
Your walking down the street, you walk past a house, you here someone playing guitar, unbeknownst to you, through an amp sim, Amplitube, BIAS Amp, S-Gear 2, TH3, whatever, it doesn't matter, all you know is that there is someone in there playing a guitar with a distorted tone, or a clean tone, or with a chorus and delay applied, whatever, it sounds convincing, because you can recognize what is going on. The rest doesn't matter. All the amp sims I own, they all sound convincing, you know what it is trying to be, an amp sim, not once have I purchased an amp sim and thought to myself, 'Is this an amp sim or did I buy a Synth' some will do it better than others, and that will also depend on the individual. Some people prefer Marshall's, some Fender, and others Mesa Boogie, myself I prefer Laney's, and what is an amp supposed to sound like anyway.
 
I purchased the 5 Surh packs from Choptones (well every pack the have), I have no idea what a Suhr amp sounds like, had never even heard of them before, all I know is that it is probably the most gorgeous sounding thing I have ever played my guitar through, clean or distorted, does it matter if it even sounds like a real Suhr amp ? not in the least.
 
In the end it is no different to any other effect or whatever that you play your guitar through, the what's, why's, when's and how's aren't of any concern, all that matters is what your ears, what you yourself think of what you hear and feel, the rest just doesn't matter. Would anyone, after hearing what they themselves think is the best sounding guitar tone/sound they have ever heard, turn around and say that is crap because they found out that some of it's modeling process isn't in fact based on how it actually is in the real world ? I wouldn't.
 
We live in amazing times, with all that is available to us, the convenience and quality provided by what is available to us for peanuts really, so much variety, something for everyone . . . Great days indeed 
 

ampfixer
 
 A pal of mine uses Bias live on small gigs and he has great ears

 
Indeed he does
 
 

I am glad you brought up Bias Amp. I had never heard of it before and I don't go looking for amp sims. I am just not an amp sim fan, although I do have S-Gear (early adopter so got it kinda cheap), amplitube free), Guitar Rig 4 (came with Sonar), TH2 (came with Sonar) and ABG (early adopter and got it cheap). It is not that I don't like the end results but I just don't "feel inspired" playing them as I do when I play my real amps. 
 
Anyway, I finally downloaded the Bias Amp demo. Wow! It is pretty good. I still do not like the clean tones. I have yet to find an amp sim that I like with a clean sound. In the context of a mix, they would all sound fine.
 
I have been frustrated with my tone micing my amps (I don't have a good selection of mics) or using speaker IRs. I do like Bias Amp though. I know Sonar is getting ready to include TH3 Sonar Edition but I did not care for TH2. Again, not that it is bad. It is good. But Bias Amp... I may have to buy the standard edition. 
 
Thanks again for pointing this out. 

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