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2017/06/17 23:26:00 (permalink)

Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets?

Working in event list or some other view, if my cursor is not in the right place or the focus si wrong when I hit a number key, havoc is wreaked upon my screen: browers and inspectors disappear, things undock, etc. and I have to try to put crap back together.
 
If we can't turn these off, can there at least be a go back or undo key?
 
I have been using the same templates for years and I don't necessarily remember every step I need to take to put stuff back where it goes.
 
If you have seen other posts from me in the past, you will know I am not a fan of a keyboard full of shortcut keys that can destroy things with an unintentional bump.  In this case, I meant to hit 7 but as a control value, not as a mosaic rearrangement.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/17 23:38:59 (permalink)
konradh . . . I've done this many times myself, but can't you just go to the key bindings and unbind all the number keys which are linked to screensets ?
 
Though, now that you mention it . . . a "screensets on / off button" would be very useful for those of us who don't utilize screensets as part of their normal workflow, then you could turn it on when you do want to use it.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/17 23:40:41 (permalink)
When that happens to me I immediately hit the "1" button. It always takes me back to where I was. I'm guessing it's the default screen set. It's a quick fix. I don't use any of the environment changers like screen sets or lenses but my cat will occasionally jump on the keyboard like a demented ninja. He knows keyboard shortcuts I've never seen before.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/17 23:42:35 (permalink)
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When that happens to me I immediately hit the "1" button. It always takes me back to where I was. I'm guessing it's the default screen set. It's a quick fix. I don't use any of the environment changers like screen sets or lenses but my cat will occasionally jump on the keyboard like a demented ninja. He knows keyboard shortcuts I've never seen before.


Ha ! . . . I've installed a little fence to keep my cat off the keys.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 01:39:19 (permalink)
Bind the number keys to 'do nothing' to overide the default screenset bindings. 'Do nothing' is an actual binding function, the purpose of which is to overide default settings that you do not want.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 01:43:20 (permalink)
Cant you just lock the screenset ?
I don't know maybe im misunderstanding.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 02:09:57 (permalink)
Is that what happens.
 
Man, last week I hit a key and everything went wonky like you described Konrad.
 
Yes, let us disable this. I don't use em. Only by shocking accident.
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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 02:28:48 (permalink)
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Cant you just lock the screenset ?
I don't know maybe im misunderstanding.


Locking a screenset won't stop it changing to a new one when another number is selected.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 06:00:46 (permalink)
I bound my number keys to do nothing a few years ago now, among quite a few other keyboard shortcuts... I know they are there to help, but if you don't use them, get rid.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 06:38:28 (permalink)
My keyboard has no number keys on the right hand side.
For extra safety, I don't have a cat.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 10:18:48 (permalink)
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My keyboard has no number keys on the right hand side.
For extra safety, I don't have a cat.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 10:41:43 (permalink)
Bakers, please think like a user, not a programmer.
One typically changes screensets very rarely.
So please remove the keybinding by default.
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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 11:52:51 (permalink)
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chuckebaby
Cant you just lock the screenset ?
I don't know maybe im misunderstanding.


Locking a screenset won't stop it changing to a new one when another number is selected.


your right it wont, but going back to the original screenset will only take 1 click.
 
I believe his/the OP problem (what he is explaining) is he hits a # by accident and all his views, docks, exc are changed (because it switches screensets). Well if he locks his main/original screenset once everything is set up, then even he if bumps a # key by accident, it will only take 1 click to return to his previous set up.
 
Screensets are amazing and can be used to ones advantage in many different ways.
So rather than curse them, I would suggest the OP simply learns how to manipulate them instead to his advantage.
Cant say I have ever bumped a key by accident and had it blow up my workspace. I set up all my screensets and lock my main 3 screensets. thus never losing my docks, views.
But even if he were to lock just his main screenset, its 1 click to lock it, another click to get back to it.
 
Screensets are almost like saving a project. You wouldn't expect to click "Exit" by accident and still have your work saved.
Only other option I believe is to disable the key bindings.
 
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Bakers, please think like a user, not a programmer.
One typically changes screensets very rarely.

 
Actually this is how you think (not every user). I change screensets quite frequently.
We all work in different ways. If you learn to use Screensets to your advantage then you might change them more frequently.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 12:51:05 (permalink)
I never explored screen sets. Just now though I pressed 1-7 and was like, wow, look at all the views. And all I have to do to "go home" is hit the 1 key.
 
When they came out with this I said meh, and never took em for a spin.
I guess it's good I did because I do have a cat here.
 
 
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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 13:07:42 (permalink)
A programmer thinks "Ah. Menu! Must have key bindings".
No. The menu is enough.
You are an expert. You are capable of setting up your own key bindings.
 
There's a thread how to make DAWs easier.
This is a classic example how to terrify a new user.
 
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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 13:56:04 (permalink)
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Bakers, please think like a user, not a programmer.
One typically changes screensets very rarely.
So please remove the keybinding by default.


Gross generalisation at best! I use screensets extensively all of the time. Think like a power user, not a newbie:)

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 14:00:25 (permalink)
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your right it wont, but going back to the original screenset will only take 1 click.
Screensets are amazing and can be used to ones advantage in many different ways.

 
Yup - preaching to the choir here Chuck. Mad fan of screensets:)
 
 
 

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 14:09:13 (permalink)
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chuckebaby
 
your right it wont, but going back to the original screenset will only take 1 click.
Screensets are amazing and can be used to ones advantage in many different ways.

 
Yup - preaching to the choir here Chuck. Mad fan of screensets:)
 
 
 


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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 14:43:33 (permalink)
My perspective is that is one of the most annoying defaults of Sonar: I don't know how many times I've tried to enter a value in a dialog box and instead reset my screen set. I guess I can just unmap the keys, and I've never bothered doing so.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 16:05:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby paulo 2017/06/18 20:02:15
IMO, being to completely turn off screen sets would be the best approach.  That way people that don't use them don't have to go thru multiple steps to unmap stuff, lock stuff and 1-click back from something they didn't want to begin with.
 
 

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 18:23:26 (permalink)
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Working in event list or some other view, if my cursor is not in the right place or the focus si wrong when I hit a number key, havoc is wreaked upon my screen: browers and inspectors disappear, things undock, etc. and I have to try to put crap back together.
 
If we can't turn these off, can there at least be a go back or undo key?
 
I have been using the same templates for years and I don't necessarily remember every step I need to take to put stuff back where it goes.
 
If you have seen other posts from me in the past, you will know I am not a fan of a keyboard full of shortcut keys that can destroy things with an unintentional bump.  In this case, I meant to hit 7 but as a control value, not as a mosaic rearrangement.




You can reprogram the hotkeys so that doesn't happen.  I basically use one screenset, you can also call up individual screens (event list, tempo view, controller view, etc.) without even using screensets...
 
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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 20:23:47 (permalink)
Excellent suggestions--thanks.  I feel kind of dumb now.
 
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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/18 23:09:42 (permalink)
Ok...

For a work around maybe copy your basic preferred screenset to all 10 locations in your startup templates. Then hitting a number and you wont notice a change?

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/19 00:17:26 (permalink)
Ya know, smart like an gray you are.
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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/19 13:20:46 (permalink)
Keni, That is a good solution.

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Re: Possible to Turn of the *** **** Screen Sets? 2017/06/20 18:16:37 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby tenfoot 2017/06/20 23:48:19
Keni
Ok...

For a work around maybe copy your basic preferred screenset to all 10 locations in your startup templates. Then hitting a number and you wont notice a change?



that will only "work" until you start to work with your project. each screenset will update based on what changes make when you work (show, hide, resize stuff, ...) now hitting a number by mistake gets a different screen which looks almost the same but not quite ... that'll be really confusing ... unless all screensets are locked (which would be really useless to start with)
 
either unbind the number keys or make some useful screensets (and label them like tracking, mix, editing, whatever) and start using them

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