Possibly new PC build - Motherboards and CPU

I'd think about getting a an i7-6700k instead, since it is a newer architecture and smaller process node and about the same price. If you are going to get a new high end system, might as well get the latest technology. It will be a bit more for the CPU and the RAM, but unless you can get a really good deal on the older stuff, I'd go for it.
 
ASUS is a good choice for motherboards. They make good hardware. They have crap support sadly, so if there is a problem it is a pain getting an RMA, but the good news is you aren't very likely to have a problem because they make solid hardware.

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Jim I was reading some reviews of the 5820k and was wondering what you thought about that chip. LOL!!

I haven't had any problems with mine. It runs Cakewalk and other apps fine.
 
The only niggle I have is the Asus installer adds so much bloatware (bloatware to me anyway) but it can all be uninstalled. The onboard Realtek soundcard is lousy. It works but that is about it.

Kev999,  that is my exact debate!  I can afford a new system but if my existing system is powerful enough, why do it?  I am having some issues with Platinum and Maschine and was curious if a new system would help but it doesn't appear so.
 
Thanks!
 
Joe

I added some SSD's to my machine and my ole 2600K is good to go!!

 I got 8 years out of an Asus AMD motherboard. It was a dual core board. People were experimenting with the bios and were able to run Phenom II quads.  Asus adopted it and the bios was official.  The board finally died. There's a whole forum devoted to the Asus M series with nForce chips.
 I still have a Phenom II 945 with an nForce chipset.  It's not fast by today's standards but it can still do DAW work. So can my Intel Q6600 system. 

Price taken from Newegg, random brands with price rounding.

PC Case __________ 100/=
PSU ______________ 50/=
i7 4790K __________ 340/=
1155 1150 Motherboard __ 85/= (edited)
DDR3 (2x8GB) _____ 75/=
Fanless Graphic Card 30/=
SSD 500GB ________ 160/=
HDD 1TB __________ 48/=
 
At around USD 888/=. Very basic power supply and default cooling system.

I was raised to never overclock a cpu , if one wants it to last a long life...even with heat sinks or water cooling of the best sorts...
 
I also believe at certain points in overclocking, some things do not time out well...if say a outside clock is synced to the system... odd things happen, you end up frozen....or locked up....if it is true or not...??... I never went there to find out.
 
I am glad some can overclock without issues....Yet for my reasons above, I do not do it at all.
 
I have a good system build with Thunderbolt 2 Asus Quad deluxe board..z87 spec below...I think the TB interface helps relieve the memory/cpu access via directly using memory without cpu intervention.....rather than cpu being the director....So it relieves more bottle necks in that, and less hickups with audio irq issues, which to my mind with Firewire 400/800 cards from TI and LSI and others seemed to plague that PCI x1 firewire solution..or pci e card solutions with noise clicking and popping..., I once used....
 
As for USB audio...I am trying a motu 4 pre, on one machine...had lots of issues in the first run under win 7...but it is now working ok, after a few driver upgrades , on a older 2011 socket board with a 6 core...Streams video and audio well...and internet is ok...But I rarely use this for audio mixing or such in recording...Mostly a play back, all in all system .
 
My new X99/2011-3 5930 (Asus ) 32gb,ssd build, and red drives,is still being tested, also with Thunderbolt add on card (Asus) added,  has moved into the recording area, to tie into the other systems for video and audio production testing....Seems to be very fast, and stable with Sonar and Studio one 3, with Motu Thunderbolt 828.
 
Mac Pro 8 core, runs the Allen and Health x2 mixers, over Thunderbolt 2 now, and has been the 8 core champ in all...Logic and Studio one 3 and pro tiools are on that with sound forge...and has two video cards for the video end of things, when I get the software for that.
 
All this, and other systems for midi/softsynths/dmx lighting...are moving into place also, to be farmed, or synced to the master  Mac machine...
Dmx and such lighting to be added next....So when tempo and metronome are needed ...a light can run the tempo to the session room...to help keep time...and or control stage lighting....(As a click in head phones is never loud enough for the people playing live as a hole band together)....So light timing might be a solution for me...and dmx lighting is run off of midi/metronome click
 
I guess if one machine is suppose to run a audio system only...4790k and good MB will do..with 16gb of memory or more and a 2gb video card...setup right, can be fruitful to work with under win 7 and up . 
 
I think the x99 is more robust for multi tasking video and audio though, and sure as hell will do it without too much hick up or noise, or sqweeling...and might do it a bit faster if utilizing all the speed these new boards can utilize...usb 3.1, and M2 ports, and on some thunderbolt supoort....I'd say a well built system exceeds the Mac pro...at way less a price!...value?...proven reliable?....still new, and being developed win 10...is bound to be a fixer for a while more...but seems to be stable at this junction .
Mac is also being updated and some issues with....so bliss is what you choose to make be that bliss....if it is obtainable totally yet?...no not yet, but sure is around the corner, over the hill, and not too far away!
 
 
cheers.
 
hope this helps unconfuse via confusion methods tested so far,the right choice out of the wrong ones I made first .......wink....Thunderbolt, with firewire adapter // works better than firewire ever did for me..
 
And we hope CW has fixed the lost audio device issue....as I have read they did find something odd in code...so that is next fix, to solve for...and then maybe it is bliss.

Yes sir...Throughput, or channeling through PCI lanes....bigger lanes, more of em, more throughput of data flow...= more tracks?...better management of?...Guess we will see, in the next few weeks how x99 Asus deluxe Preforms with the Motu TB 828....I have high hopes, it will be better than the below spec I posted....Soon to change I am sure.
 
A frozen PC or Mac due to overclocking, is in my mind no way to shut down and reboot...If working on a very important project, and when moving to save save save...it flakes out before doing so....well you know why I do not go to that overclocking process, if warned not to by some very learnt people....I even turn off speed stepping and vt in bios if possible....can't take any chances , i say...Stability starts by being careful with the devices, and the usage of the parts there in with respectful intent.....Good in...Good out...should work in my understanding of scripture,...used for the Good, in Good of all...is best treated to enact better performing Processes in principle terms!
 
 
I believe Asrock boards may support a TB header...if you find your firewire card / causing issues with your audio...try the TB and TB addapter for it...You may get better preformance out of it, it the board you sought out does have it...a TB ard is a option then.
 
Options eh...
 
Be well..
 
 

Sir Les
Yes sir...Throughput, or channeling through PCI lanes....bigger lanes, more of em, more throughput of data flow...= more tracks?...better management of?...Guess we will see, in the next few weeks how x99 Asus deluxe Preforms with the Motu TB 828....I have high hopes, it will be better than the below spec I posted....Soon to change I am sure.
 
 

 Asus X99 is a very good motherboard and it was in the running on my build. Excellent user interface. Low percentage of failures. Overclocking isn't always necessary. I plan to throw heavy soft synths and intense plug ins at my recordings in the future and I didn't want the system to ever choke. 3ghz might be fine too for this depending on how many tracks. I don't think we're mixing movie productions with 50 stems. I could be wrong.
 
ASRock seems to be somewhere in the middle and we'll see. It has decent reviews. There have been a few DOAs, but I don't think anyone should even try this if they aren't prepared to have that happen. It certainly can happen...best of luck to you on the build. My mentality is that if it can happen it might and I'll just have to swallow the results and send that bad one back. Main thing being that I make sure I do everything right to eliminate user error. Likely the reason for some  open box items on newegg. It isn't the end of the world just a darned computer right? :)
 
Sorry to hear of your unfortunate experiences tlw. I agree. I tried to stay away from those high end gamer boards although mine has some of the same DNA. You raise a good point...failures don't always happen right away. In might be a few months down the road. Gigabyte has a few nice boards out there with decent ratings, but I understand that if you've been bitten once......
 
Cheers

Good luck with it tlw. I have been fortunate so far today. 
 
I spent most of the day today putting together this build. I'm typing here on it now. Fingers crossed. I've been burning it in the last few hours. I'm still playing with the overclocking on it. 
 
In Windows 8.1 64 bit the  storage devices section doesn't show my 2 SSD storage drives. They show in my device manager.They show up on my SATA ports. I thought that was strange. I loaded my OS drive before I hooked up the others and maybe this was where the problem began. So I'm wondering if I try to direct a path to one how it's going to work.
 
Update- I got it working last evening. I guess we still need to format the old way. Makes sense. None knows how many partitions you'll need or want. I don't think formatting disks is very intuitive in Windows 8.1. This morning I have all my drive letters. 
 
All in all so far I can't complain. Runs very well and quiet. I accustomed to hearing the whirrrr of hard drives when I reboot. I can hardly tell when this one reboots. I'll post the build in my sig soon.
 
Now for the real fun. I get to transfer all of my software over.
 
Best,
 

Congrats on the new box!

I am looking at getting/building a i7/6700 based PC. The chipset is supposed to support 64 GB of DDR4  RAM, but everything from Dell/HP etc only supports 32 GB.  I prefer a built system, but can put one together if need be.
 
Another choice is to go XEON to get better memory controller and a larger addressable memory range (that's what I used to do). XEONs do very well under load, which I like.
 
Any recommendations would be appreciated.
 

I never quite understood the whole overclocking fanaticism. Taking a cheaper system just to overclock it? shrugs To me, it is not worth the 10-12% increase in speed just to have possible issues and shorten the life of the system.
 
It is saddening that intel has quit making motherboards. I always had good luck with those. They might not have had all the 'cutting' edge bells & whistles but they were always rock stable.