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Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
I know that some of you have experienced a problem, as have I, with Arturia's Oberheim SEM soft synth. i.e. It cause SONAR X3e to blow up when trying to insert. Arturia's recommendation is to roll back to X3d which I personal find unacceptable. I was having a little troll through some of my works in progress and loaded a project in SONAR X3e which contains the SEM synth, which loaded and worked OK. I consequently tried an experiment. I cleared the project of every thing except the SEM synth saved it as a template and then tried to use the template to create a new project. UIt worked. Now I will not guarantee it will work for others and it is really not acceptable but if you want to give it a go you may find it will work for you. As an aside Arturia tell that the problem is with the VST 3 version and not the VST 2 therefore un-installing the VST 3 is also a potential solution. I hope this might help some of you.
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/10 01:37:52
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Artura's stuff didn't work in X3d either. I bought one of their controllers a while ago and it came bundled with a bunch of soft synths, I ended up returning it.
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Wookiee
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/10 09:18:13
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I have had little problem with Arturia synths up until X3e andI fail to understand why such a problem now exists all my other VST's work fine it only the Arturia ones that are twitching.
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/10 09:22:53
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Wookiee I have had little problem with Arturia synths up until X3e andI fail to understand why such a problem now exists all my other VST's work fine it only the Arturia ones that are twitching.
even if you remove the vst 3 versions? from what i've read on the forums, various vst 3 plugs needed some special cake attention before they worked properly in sonar...
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/13 15:49:57
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Seems its the VST3 Arturia synths that are crashing for me CWBRN-26631. The VST2 ones seem to work fine but SEM, Analog Factory and Wurlitzer V are VST3 and all crash Sonar on insert. Now I have to work if I can install VST versions of these.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/13 17:07:53
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Further to the last post, I moved the DLLs in the 64bit VST directory to a backup location, Sonar then picked up the 32 bit VST2 versions and they work fine using bitbridge.
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/13 21:01:29
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There are 64 bit vst2 versions of the 3 problematic vst3s, no need to use bitbriidge. I can only confirm that the vst2 version of SEM works correctly in 64 bit X3E.
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Wookiee
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/13 21:02:57
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Glyn Barnes Further to the last post, I moved the DLLs in the 64bit VST directory to a backup location, Sonar then picked up the 32 bit VST2 versions and they work fine using bitbridge.
Glyn and anyone else who is interested find the directory %system%/program files/common files/vst3 I think that's the correct route find the Arturia files Oberhiem SEM V.vst3 and rename it something like Oberhiem SEM V.vst3.NG. For me NG meant No Good. Rename all the Arturia VST in this directory similarly. Start SONAR, let the vst Scan finish, open the cakewalk plugin manager, force a rescan of all VST's if you have personalised layouts open them and check that the plugin has not become greyed out if it has just select it from the right subsection and re add the plugin. This worked for me earlier today I had no problem with any of my Arturia synths and I own the V-Collection.
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/13 21:12:07
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Instead of renaming or moving the plug-in binaries, it should be possible to go into the Cakewalk Plug-in Manager and exclude the unwanted versions.
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Wookiee
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/14 05:12:22
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scook Instead of renaming or moving the plug-in binaries, it should be possible to go into the Cakewalk Plug-in Manager and exclude the unwanted versions.
No does not work if you exclude the plugin you exclude both VST 2 and VST 3 tried that one. The one thing I did not try was turning off the automatic replacement. This off course has the knock on affect of applying to all VST3 plugs which is a little bit of a pain when it appears to be only one suppliers plugs that have a problem, well for me anyway.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/14 08:50:33
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Renaming things mess something up! In the end I did "properly" and uninstalled the three offending synths and re-installed with VST3 unchecked. It all works now.
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/14 11:04:25
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Glyn Barnes Renaming things mess something up! In the end I did "properly" and uninstalled the three offending synths and re-installed with VST3 unchecked. It all works now.
I did try that but I did not see in the V-Collection installer where I could make that decision to not install the VST 3's probably got fur in the eyes. Importantly Glyn is you sorted it which is good.
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/14 11:13:47
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Wookiee
Glyn Barnes Renaming things mess something up! In the end I did "properly" and uninstalled the three offending synths and re-installed with VST3 unchecked. It all works now.
I did try that but I did not see in the V-Collection installer where I could make that decision to not install the VST 3's probably got fur in the eyes. Importantly Glyn is you sorted it which is good.
While I purchased the V collection each synth could all be uninstalled indivudually in control panel. I just downloaded the latest updated for the individual synths. I was a bit wary of this but once I had screwed things up renaming things I did not have much to loose.
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/14 12:03:37
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Interesting am I right in thinking you ran the installer for the latest version of the any of the V-Collection synths? What happened when it came to install the e-licenser did you cancel that bit or what? If you did did you have to re-enter a key? Cheers
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/14 14:08:23
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Wookiee Interesting am I right in thinking you ran the installer for the latest version of the any of the V-Collection synths? What happened when it came to install the e-licenser did you cancel that bit or what? If you did did you have to re-enter a key? Cheers
I just let the installers run, including the eLicencer. I was suprised but I did not need to reauthorise or enter any codes.
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Re: Potential work around for those having trouble with Arturia Synths
2014/06/14 14:45:45
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