Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News

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2014/03/24 12:34:10 (permalink)

Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News

This is the conclusion from a new, very large data analysis study in Annals of Internal Medicine:
 
Conclusion: Current evidence does not clearly support cardiovascular guidelines that encourage high consumption of polyunsaturated fatty acids and low consumption of total saturated fats.
 
http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1846638&atab
 
I am having a bacon double cheese burger for lunch ... on a donut.
 
This is from a NYT blog:
 http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/17/study-questions-fat-and-heart-disease-link/?_php=true&_type=blogs&smid=tw-nytimes&_r=3
 
post edited by quantumeffect - 2014/03/24 12:48:01

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    craigb
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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 12:51:10 (permalink)
    Long live the Anals of Infernal Medicine!
     
    I think I'll have a couple of these:
     

     


     
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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 13:29:52 (permalink)
    I like this one better than that BMI doomsday thread.

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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 13:40:14 (permalink)
    They're just messing with us - they periodically offer completely opposite recommendations:
     
    Coffee is good for you! 
    No, coffee is bad for you! 
    No, coffee is good for you! 
    No, coffee is bad for you! 
    No, coffee is good for you! 
    No, coffee is bad for you! 
    No, coffee is good for you! 
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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 13:53:43 (permalink)
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    They're just messing with us - they periodically offer completely opposite recommendations:
     
    Coffee is good for you! 
    No, coffee is bad for you! 
    No, coffee is good for you! 
    No, coffee is bad for you! 
    No, coffee is good for you! 
    No, coffee is bad for you! 
    No, coffee is good for you! 
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    Oh yeah.....I remember them doing the same thing with cholesterol in eggs.......

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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 15:16:12 (permalink)
    I think I'll get some coffee (while I think about making some becan and eggs). 

     
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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 15:32:48 (permalink)
    Still - to eat the beans!

     
     

     
     
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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 17:06:29 (permalink)
    I use a fairly simple method to determine what's good and what's bad. 
     
    If 30 minutes after my meal I am full of energy and ready to do 30 minutes of high intensity cardio or an hour of weight training, that meal was probably healthy. - Lentils, lean chicken breasts or turkey, lots of greens, fresh fruits, lactose free cottage cheese, greek yogurt, nuts. That's the bulk of my diet.
     
    If I feel like lying down watching movies - which eventually leads to eating more junk - my meal was inefficient. Beef, bread, pastas and the likes fall into that category. I keep that stuff for the weekend. 
     
    After a while, your body tells you.

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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/24 17:15:15 (permalink)
    Good to know. Now I can carry on taking no notice whatsoever of food  "experts".
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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/25 08:59:13 (permalink)
    I guess they'll never thoroughly map the complexity of factors concerning healthy/unhealthy food. What is good for a population with this genetic heritage kills people with that genetic heritage.
    North-Karelia Project in eastern Finland was once the Mother Of All Diet Surveys, a huge international
    effort to make the folks there (especially men) change their killer diet, and to find out what-causes-what etc.
    It gave a clear results: Fatty diary products and fatty meat (=hard fats) simply kill.
     
    Now, the inuits have never eaten anything green, only hard fat, but cardiovascular diseases were unknown to them before they got aquainted with "white mans food".
     
    Whatever you eat you go wrong from some perspectives, and right from other perspectives.
    I believe the key is physical exercise. As long as you give your body a hard time in a constructive way, it will turn
    any food into something healthy.
     

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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/25 10:21:04 (permalink)
    Re: flip-flopping on coffee, eggs, etc. It really depends on which industry funded the study.
     
    "Researchers" capitalize on the public's ever-declining science literacy. Cholesterol is bad, eggs have lots of it, therefore eggs are bad. Sounds logical - but it's bad logic. It presumes that the cholesterol in the eggs goes straight into your blood, which it doesn't. That nasty cholesterol clogging your arteries didn't come from eggs or bacon, you manufactured that goo yourself!
     
    I can't remember where I read this, but I saw somewhere that manufacturer-sponsored drug tests were 4 times more likely to verify positive benefits compared to government-sponsored studies. Check out a documentary called "Orgasm, Inc.". It will open your eyes to the reality of pharmaceutical chicanery. To the topic, it illustrates how to manufacture lies and back them up with "scientific" studies that are not truly scientific at all. Unless you can call Marketing a science.
     
     
     


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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/25 11:35:34 (permalink)
    I read a study (and will have to try and find it) where the food we eat now has something like 60+% fewer nutrients than the same food consumed back in the 50's.  This is due to the new processes, pesticides (and other chemicals) and overuse of farm land.  Doesn't surprise me.

     
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    Re: Potentially Very Good / Important Dietary News 2014/03/25 13:50:01 (permalink)
    Should I drink coffee? I don't even like it anymore.
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