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2006/05/23 20:23:37 (permalink)

Presets

Saw this from Waves. Can a bunch of presets be all that useful?

http://forum.waves.com/inwise/fb/asn.aspx?t=5741529248&m=1452686635C556826666b5618663765m4423592
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    yep
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    RE: Presets 2006/05/23 21:34:36 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: zgraf
    ...Can a bunch of presets be all that useful?...


    Not really. If they come with a detailed explanation of the reasoning behind them, then they can help as an educational tool, but it's not like you couldn't get that stuff from reading articles and interviews. Compressor settings depend on way too many variables to be able to "set it and forget it." A different tempo, a different playing style, a different instrument can all have a big difference on how the compressor will respond at any given settings.

    "Celebrity presets" are mostly just a selling gimmick.

    Cheers.
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    chaz
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    RE: Presets 2006/05/24 11:20:15 (permalink)
    I personally advise against the use of presets and think they are more of a detriment to one learning how set up a device, whether harware or software- based, in the overall mixing process.

    That said..... I will make up my own presets that I will use, but that is different than using a stock factory preset.

    However..... When first learning about this whole mixing thing, a preset can only get you in the ballpark...if that. You will still have to do some tweaking to it to get things where they need to be for the overall mix. That is why I feel it is better to learn how to tweak a plugin without relying on a preset to get you there in the first place.
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    zgraf
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    RE: Presets 2006/05/24 11:58:56 (permalink)
    thanks for the feedback!
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    DonnyAir
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    RE: Presets 2006/05/24 16:55:27 (permalink)
    I personally advise against the use of presets and think they are more of a detriment to one learning how set up a device, whether harware or software- based, in the overall mixing process.


    Agreed. While I don't think it's detrimental to use, as Chaz stated, presets you build yourself, I agree that reaching for a "generic setting" or a plug setting programmed by someone else can result in sidestepping the most important thing, and that is learning and becoming familiar with what that particular processor actually does.

    Caveat: if you're just a hobbyinst having fun, and don't care about learning the engineering side, go ahead and use 'em...
    But don't expect to make you sound like the label the preset claims.

    As Yep mentioned, in regard to EQ or dynamics processors, the variables are sooooo wide (mic, vocalist, room, etc) that while it might get you a little close, (but probably not) ...well, to put it simply, a "Peter Gabriel" EQ preset isn't going to make you sound like Gabriel.... nor will it take into account the U47, 67 C12 or other hi end mic he used, or the acoustically tuned room, or the rack of 1176's, LA2's and Fairchild 600's, or... Tom Lorde Alge on the mixer...

    It's best that you work with your own presets, build your own, and in doing so, learn the in's and out's of what that particular processor actually does.

    Have fun!

    D.
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    RE: Presets 2006/05/30 05:23:12 (permalink)
    Turn knobs, make bad sounds, turn more knobs make good sounds, store good sounds. That is how I learn................
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