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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 15:55:58 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby John T 2017/11/22 19:36:43
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I spoke with Rick Naqvi of Presonus.  He's aware of the issue with Cakewalk and said that by next week they may be offering a special crossgrade to Cakewalk users.  However, I have no idea what that actually means. 




I think it means that Rick is a DAW to DAW salesman.

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im sorry but I really needed this right now .
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 16:18:11 (permalink)
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Hey Synkrotron, Acoustica is offering Mixcraft 8 Pro Studio for only $99 right now thru Tuesday (45% off $179 SRP). Check out the Acoustica pages. Acoustica is committed to making Mixcraft a DAW that SONAR users will want to seriously consider adopting. I am 100% certain that we will have a sustained campaign over time to invite SONAR users to the Mixcraft community. The company is so much like Cakewalk used to be in the early days that it's scary! Very cool company. Thanks, Anthony
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hi anthony, are you offering a cross-grade price for sonar users?
 




That would help... Extended quite a bit beyond all this Black Friday shenanigans...
 








 Trying to use products like Kontakt is annoying in Mixcraft.  You have to search far for a video on how to work it.  If you are a heavy Kontakt user Mixcraft is not a good choice.

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 16:27:17 (permalink)
We are spoiled with Sonar and such a high bar I think right down to the UI. I tried MIXCRAFT for a while just to see, loading VSTs is not as intuitive to me as it is in Sonar.
 
I reckon Sonar will be hard to replace for me :( .. As I said elsehere .. I will wait and see where Sonar goes, I think it is not dead, its too good to be dead / not snapped up ... in my opinion!
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 16:48:55 (permalink)
I totally agree with the above post.  Downloaded the full Studio One demo last night and have been playing around with it since then.  There are some things I like but obviously not nearly as comfortable to me as a longtime Sonar user.  Sonar just makes so much sense after all this time.  I'm not in any hurry to leave but do worry about compatibility later on.  I'll unplug my studio machine once I'm done running any updates from CC.

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 17:10:42 (permalink)
Reaper is only $60.

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 17:20:24 (permalink)
Just had a look at Mixcraft.  Interesting, anyone compared Mixcraft to Studio One?

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 17:56:48 (permalink)
Like a lot of others have said, there's really no hurry to jump into something else.  But I'm evaluating all the stuff out there.  I happen to be in Louisiana and not far from Presonus' headquarters.  They're good folks.  I'll absolutely try Studio One here in the next couple of weeks. 

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 18:02:49 (permalink)
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I've looked at the Studio One 3 reference manual (13% the number of pages as the Sonar manual) and also at some online tutorials and demos, and I'm having a hard time getting excited about it. I use software synths and hardware synths, and I do a lot of editing in Sonar's staff view. In the manual and tutorials, I didn't see any equivalent to Sonar's staff view or MIDI event list. Studio One seems to have a nice feature set for audio, but very little for MIDI editing. Of course, I'd be happy to be contradicted by an experienced S1 user.
 
I don't want to jump until I find a product that has the features I need.
 
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Not true at all. I haven't found any midi editing features missing yet. What is different is there is no "Smart Tool", so you'll actually need to learn new keyboard shortcuts to be productive.
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 18:06:23 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Mitch_I 2017/11/22 19:12:49
Mixcraft- wonderful for home studio mixers, weekend warriors and such so long as you don't want to get too complex.Like a pimped version of Garageband. It offers a lot for the asking price.It might do all you need it to do though.
 
Studio One- It has the capability to go  deeper than Mixcraft and offers more features.
 
Cubase- If you used the deep midi functions in Sonar, this is probably your best choice.More of a learning curve. The other two can do similar, they aren't as complex in midi DEEPER editing functions. Really nothing can replace what Sonar does completely. As in any daw decision it's subjective depending on what you want to do and how you like to do it.

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 18:12:48 (permalink)
Not a lot of people mentioning Bitwig here. Personally I think it looks like an awesome DAW and its global modulation feature is something I could really use. However I wrote it off because it apparently doesn't do time signature changes. Unless someone can correct me.

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 18:21:02 (permalink)
Thanks, I'm not a POWER midi user but don't want something that's not intuitive either.  I'm not totally bailing on Sonar yet but coincidentally last night I can't run Plugin Manager from the drop down, it's not there.  I had a crash on a simple project and can now only open it from inserting a plug in the fx bin.  Weird.  In any case the writing's on the wall.  I feel it's better to get into a new DAW sooner than later, I'm not getting any younger and I have quite a few projects coming up and a new album to finish in the new year and I just don't like the thought/feeling of a possible dead DAW looming...

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 18:30:24 (permalink)
As a former VP of Sales at Cakewalk for 12 years, and now VP of Sales at Acoustica for the last five years, we would greatly appreciate your kind consideration to take a serious look at Mixcraft 8 Pro Studio. It will surprise many of you. It is maturing like a fine wine with each new version. At $179 (on sale this weekend for $99), now includes side-chaining, VST3 and MP4 support, 64-bit and 32-bit, live recording to performance panel grids and professional video editing. Includes integrated Melodyne Essentials directly into the sound edit tab, and one-click simultaneous publishing to soundcloud, mixcloud, youtube, FB, tumblr and your other music and video sites. Check it out at  the Acoustica website.
 
Please allow me to point out the intangibles. We are a small software-only company focusing on the PC (like the early days of Cakewalk). We have a CTO who came from Sonic Foundry and worked on Acid and Vegas, which is why you will see that the Loop Library asset management and video editing are far superior than any other DAW on the market today. Mixcraft 8 is for real!
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 19:32:05 (permalink)
What if I own Melodyne Studio 4?  Does it take over?

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 19:32:38 (permalink)
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As a former VP of Sales at Cakewalk for 12 years, and now VP of Sales at Acoustica for the last five years, we would greatly appreciate your kind consideration to take a serious look at Mixcraft 8 Pro Studio. It will surprise many of you. It is maturing like a fine wine with each new version. At $179 (on sale this weekend for $99), now includes side-chaining, VST3 and MP4 support, 64-bit and 32-bit, live recording to performance panel grids and professional video editing. Includes integrated Melodyne Essentials directly into the sound edit tab, and one-click simultaneous publishing to soundcloud, mixcloud, youtube, FB, tumblr and your other music and video sites. Check it out at  the Acoustica website.
 
Please allow me to point out the intangibles. We are a small software-only company focusing on the PC (like the early days of Cakewalk). We have a CTO who came from Sonic Foundry and worked on Acid and Vegas, which is why you will see that the Loop Library asset management and video editing are far superior than any other DAW on the market today. Mixcraft 8 is for real!




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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 19:40:14 (permalink)
Hi mmarton. Thank you for the inquiry. Yes it will. Your upgraded version, in this instance Melodyne Studio 4, will take over and even integrate into the Mixcraft 8 sound tab too.
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 19:49:04 (permalink)
Thanks!

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 19:52:14 (permalink)
Over at the FACEBOOK GROUP - "Cakewalk Sonar User Group (CSUG)"

Just a heads up if anyone is interested, PreSonus will launch a special crossgrade price especially for Sonar users, which they will announce next week. Also, Studio One 3.53 update is out next week.

 
Question is .. will it be less than there current BF offer :D
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 19:56:10 (permalink)
I already have Studio One 3 and love it. I always looked at programs like Mixcraft as basic home studio software. The one thing that caught my eye was the performance and loop functions since I'm building backing tracks. For 99.00 on sale I might bite and have both. Is this a black Friday sale on Mixcraft?
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:16:12 (permalink)
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I spoke with Rick Naqvi of Presonus.  He's aware of the issue with Cakewalk and said that by next week they may be offering a special crossgrade to Cakewalk users.  However, I have no idea what that actually means. 


To be honest it sounds not too good... Now there is the absolutely best time if Presonus is seriously thinking of intercepting as many Sonarians as possible.
1. Because there is a little panic here which simulates making fast decisions...
2. And BF is very close with possible best offers in the year... So many of decided to change their DAW will make a choice and spend their money for new DAW...
 
I think on the next week for sure some Sonarians will be after BF shopping with new DAW. So if some of them decided turn to other DAW than PO3 it would  be less likely they would want to buy another DAW again fast... In fact good offer can make quite a lot of people turn their attention to side which will take an opportunity from what happened after Gibson's turn...

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:19:13 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2017/11/22 20:32:07
From the FACEBOOK GROUP - "Cakewalk Sonar User Group (CSUG)"
 
Just a heads up if anyone is interested, PreSonus will launch a special crossgrade price especially for Sonar users, which they will announce next week. Also, Studio One 3.53 update is out next week.

 
AND LATEST:
 
the Sonar Crossgrade offer is going to be around $149

 
However .. I cannot defo vouch for this info as it appears to be added by a user who may / may not be working for Presonus. Caveat emptor of course, go to the FB group to check further
 
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:31:29 (permalink)
Confusing prices in UK atm because of Black Friday.

Cross grade £250 , non cross grade £174

Or JRRShop in the states (I bought Sonar from them) Cross grade $299, non cross grade $199

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:34:20 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Shambler 2017/11/22 20:44:40
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Confusing prices in UK atm because of Black Friday.

Cross grade £250 , non cross grade £174

Or JRRShop in the states (I bought Sonar from them) Cross grade $299, non cross grade $199

Confused dot com!



Audiodeluxe .. is $199 but once you add it to cart you get another $32 or so off bringing it to $168
 
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/presonus-studio-one-3-professional
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:45:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Ionian 2017/11/23 10:40:10
Spam much? How about you shut up - as I'm desperately looking for a replacement for sonar at the moment and this guy is pointing out a viable option which I will check out as soon as I get home.
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:45:38 (permalink)
How does activation/authorization work with Studio One? Does it need a dongle?
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:47:09 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Ionian 2017/11/23 10:40:04
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Spam much?




You know, between this and some other posts in other threads, you seem to be a real jerk.
 
I for one, appreciate the fact that he took the time to offer up another alternative for those of us who would have had no clue it was out there.
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 20:58:03 (permalink)
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How does activation/authorization work with Studio One? Does it need a dongle?




No dongle. Simple authorization, online or offline.
 
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 21:03:00 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby bodhi65 2017/11/22 22:42:21
Could we expand this thread to include all possible replacements? I've seen only one mention of Cubase, would like to hear more about it, especially as I, too, work a lot with midi in piano roll and staff view.
So far I've come up with Reaper, Studio One, Cubase, Mixcraft, Ableton. There's probably more. Anyone feel like making a beautiful chart with comparisons on hundreds of functions?
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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 21:23:58 (permalink)
FYI, I sent my Cake info to Presonus regarding their crossgrade offer and got a reply saying that "Crossgrades are on hold at the moment" (quote).  
 
 
Thank you for your interest in the Studio One Crossgrade! 

Studio One Crossgrades are on hold for the moment. 




THE GOOD NEWS:

There is a way to get an even BIGGER discount than our normal Crossgrade.

You can get Studio One for a massive 50% off RIGHT NOW through Cyber Monday (November 27, 2017) by going here: https://shop.presonus.com/products/software/studio-one-prods/Studio-One-3-Digital-Downloads/Studio-One-3-Professional 

No coupons or mail-in necessary. Simply add Studio One 3 Professional to your cart and the 50% discount will be automatically applied. 

NOTE: Users cannot combine the Studio One Crossgrade discounts with any other offers, sales, or discounts.


So not sure if they're on hold for next week or what but for now it's the Black Friday deal or bust.  Audiodeluxe has a coupon that ends up being $168.00US for Pro so not a bad deal anyways...

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 21:49:58 (permalink)
 
Been looking at it for about a year and finally grabbed a copy yesterday
 

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Re: Presonus May Offer a Special "Crossgrade" to Cakewalk Users 2017/11/22 21:55:20 (permalink)
this just sucks
 

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