Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne

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2014/09/29 23:18:18 (permalink)

Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne

I'm sure everyone but me knew this however, by accident I learned that  while highlighting a blob  using the splitting tool in Melodyne ...  pressing the left mouse button will allow you to move the split point to a new location.  Good for when you wish to to refine the split point between a breath for example and a note's starting consonant. 

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    Anderton
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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2014/09/30 15:56:50 (permalink)
    Actually I didn't know that. Thanks!

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2014/09/30 16:20:39 (permalink)
    Knowing where and when to split notes is one of the most important things when working with Melodyne, can't be pointed out enough!
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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2014/09/30 16:26:37 (permalink)
    Sanderxpander
    Knowing where and when to split notes is one of the most important things when working with Melodyne, can't be pointed out enough!



    Very, very true. Do it right, and you can basically do what you could with V-Vocal's pencil tool.

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2014/09/30 16:40:14 (permalink)
    SanderxpanderKnowing where and when to split notes is one of the most important things when working with Melodyne, can't be pointed out enough!

    Anderton
    Actually I didn't know that. Thanks!

    Sanderxpander ... With help from Mettelus I've been experimenting with some Melodyne tricks of the trade as it were. This thing popped out when I was playing around with separating  consonant and vowel sounds.  Along with EQ  and timing adjustments I am beginning to think that "RoboSounds",  that develop after pitch changes, may be reduced a lot.  
     
    Craig ... You are so welcome!  

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2014/09/30 19:11:13 (permalink)
    Hi Conrad, this made me think of something else with creating harmonies, which is making a clone of a track and only harmonizing the vowels (removing consonants completely on the harmonized track). Celemony has a nice video about this, but it can be fairly labor-intensive to achieve. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyW-b5SH7pk Most often this is done at the end of phrases, but the concept can be applied to many situations, and does not need to be as overt as their shimmer example.

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2014/09/30 20:35:01 (permalink)
    Good food for thought.  I'll have to give it a go!

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2017/03/29 17:09:04 (permalink)
    Sanderxpander
    Knowing where and when to split notes is one of the most important things when working with Melodyne, can't be pointed out enough!



    Sorry to resurrect this old post, but I've been searching the forums for this kind of information. The documentation explains the "how to" part of note separations, but doesn't tell me anything about when and where to use them. I've been experimenting with basic vocal pitch correction (Melodyne 4 Essential) and am having trouble figuring out what effect adding or removing separations (both hard and soft) has on the resulting sound.
     
    Can someone point me to a discussion or video that helps explain this? Thanks in advance.

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2017/03/29 17:38:26 (permalink)
    Not able to search videos ATM, but isolating vowels for editting will achieve best results. Vowels carry formants and "musical" information, so if trying to edit those while still anchored to consonants will skew the algorithm doing the work.

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2017/03/29 18:33:47 (permalink)
    In addition to the above helpful information, the following is from "The Big Book of SONAR Tips" about the using the split tool to tweak vibrato. Unfortunately I can't paste images here, so I've edited the text to try and make sense, so hopefully the following will work (you really should get the book, though ). I also use split to separate notes that slide so Melodyne can treat each note separately instead of taking an average.
     
    Tweaking Vibrato with Melodyne Essential
     
    Want a strong, smooth, even, vibrato? With Melodyne Essential, you can get 90% of the way there but we’ll also cover how to use Melodyne Editor to go the extra 10%.
     
    The key to all this is Melodyne’s note separation tool. Most people don’t think it’s in Essential because there’s no button for it, but if you hover just over the top of a note, the note separation tool will appear as a vertical bar cursor with two arrows.
     
    If the vibrato is kind of ragged, use the note separation tool to separate at each cycle of vibrato. The blobs will change pitch, because the pitch is based on the blob’s average pitch. By cutting the note into smaller blobs, the average pitch can be defined more precisely.
     
    The next step is to correct the pitch center and pitch drift. Blobs may jump a semi-tone because Melodyne thinks it’s a different pitch now that it’s been cut. After adjusting any blobs to be the correct pitch if needed, the note will have been re-assembled with a much more even and consistent vibrato.
     
    If you have Melodyne Editor, call up the Pitch Modulation tool and you can fine-tune the vibrato depth for greater consistency (i.e., set the vibrato cycles for about the same modulation depth). You’ll see some discontinuities, but you won’t hear them.

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    Re: Press Left Mouse Button To Move Split Point in Melodyne 2017/03/29 19:57:07 (permalink)
    @mettelus and Anderton: Thanks for the replies about the separation tool. I think I was assuming that creating more separations would automatically translate into more audible discontinuities, even where you don't want them. I'll have to do more experimenting.
     
    BTW, Craig, I've been working my way through your SONAR tip book. Thanks for putting them all together in one place.
     

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