Printers - Laser or Inkjet?

Author
jb101
Max Output Level: -46 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 2908
  • Joined: 2011/12/04 05:26:10
  • Status: offline
2017/02/28 07:59:53 (permalink)

Printers - Laser or Inkjet?

I am moving to a new music school, and will be having to print far more of my students' teaching material at home.  To this end I am in the market for a new printer (all in one copier, printer, scanner).
 
I guess my main concern is economical printing.  I always had the impression that I should get a laser for this.  When I spoke to someone in a shop the other day, they suggested that Inkjets are now rivaling lasers for cheap copies.  She suggested a HP OfficeJet Pro 8728.
 
Ant thoughts? I am at a loss to know what to do.  I don't rally want to spend more than £200.
 
Any help greatly appreciated.

 Sonar Platinum
#1

17 Replies Related Threads

    mettelus
    Max Output Level: -31 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4418
    • Joined: 2005/08/05 03:19:25
    • Location: Maryland, USA
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/02/28 08:50:24 (permalink)
    Laser is faster and the ink doesn't smear in them. I got a cheap HP 1217 six years ago that prints the first page in under 8 seconds and pumps them out.

    The color inkjet at work is also HP but chews through ink cartridges quick. It is slow, and that ink will smear if ever gotten wet.

    The laser cartridges can also be gotten cheaply from companies that refill them (20% what HP charges).

    ASUS P8P67 Pro (B3), i7-2600k, 32GB RAM, SSD and HDD, ASUS GTX-970 w/dual monitors, Win 7 x64U, Sonar Platinum, X3e, X2a, X1d x64, Saffire PRO 24 DSP, A-300 PRO, plus numerous gadgets and gizmos that make or manipulate sound in some way.
    #2
    fret_man
    Max Output Level: -87 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 191
    • Joined: 2009/05/14 23:57:37
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/02/28 09:08:20 (permalink)
    +1 laser printer
    #3
    fireberd
    Max Output Level: -45.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2980
    • Joined: 2008/02/25 14:14:28
    • Location: Inverness, FL
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/02/28 09:31:50 (permalink)
    For B&W printing a Laser is best.  We had HP laser jets in our network and they required periodic maintenance "kits" that were pricey.  Don't know if newer ones have the same maintenance requirements.
     
    I have an HP OfficeJet Pro 8620.  It prints relatively fast and has relatively large capacity ink cartridges (but are pricey as I don't use after market ink cartridges).  I do a lot of CD production and jewel case printing so my latest replacement was an "office" machine rather than a "home/consumer" model. 

    Franklin D-10 Pedal Steel Guitar (primary instrument). Dobro, Tele, Gretsch Chet Atkins, 4 and 5 string basses, etc. 
    ASUS Maximus VIII Hero M/B, i7 6700K CPU, 16GB Ram, SSD and conventional hard drives, Win 10 Pro and Win 10 Pro Insider Pre-Release
    Sonar Platinum 64 bit. MOTU 896MK3 Hybrid, Tranzport, X-Touch, JBL LSR308 Monitors,  
    Ozone, (backup unit Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 2nd Gen)

    ISRC Registered

    Member of Nashville based R.O.P.E. Assn.
    #4
    TheSteven
    Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1516
    • Joined: 2005/03/05 01:17:06
    • Location: Southern California
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/02/28 09:40:39 (permalink)
    Food for thought - prices are in dollars but gives you an idea of what's out there, comparable features, etc
    PC Mags Best Printers of 2017

    "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils" Loius-Hector Berlioz

    www.AgitatedState.com MenuMagic - plug-in management powertools!
    My Tunes
    #5
    ampfixer
    Max Output Level: -26 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 4933
    • Joined: 2010/12/12 20:11:50
    • Location: Ontario
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/02/28 22:18:37 (permalink)
    Laser all the way.

    Regards, John 
     I want to make it clear that I am an Eedjit. I have no direct, or indirect, knowledge of business, the music industry, forum threads or the meaning of life. I know about amps.
    WIN 10 Pro X64, I7-3770k 16 gigs, ASUS Z77 pro, AMD 7950 3 gig,  Steinberg UR44, A-Pro 500, Sonar Platinum, KRK Rokit 6 
    #6
    JonD
    Max Output Level: -44 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3132
    • Joined: 2003/12/09 11:09:10
    • Location: East of Santa Monica
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/02/28 22:52:04 (permalink)
    Definitely go laser.  I've stuck to Brother brand lasers for over 14 years and have been very satisfied.  HP is probably the best- known and selling brand, but of course, is more expensive.
     
    If you print a lot, do yourself a favor and buy OEM toner cartridges (and drums, when that eventually goes), from a reputable company.  You'll save a ton of money (For example, a Brother brand toner cartridge for my printer runs $45. An OEM two-pack goes for $25). Needless to say, it's a significant savings over the life of the printer.

    SONAR Platinum, Win 8.1 Pro, i7 2600K@4.2Ghz, Asus P8Z68 Deluxe, 16GB Crucial DDR3, GeForce GT 730, Samsung 32" and Dell 24" Monitors, Steinberg MR816X, Focusrite VRM Box, Kawai MP11 Piano, Event ALP Monitors, Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro, Too Many Plugins, My lucky hat.
    #7
    DrLumen
    Max Output Level: -83 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 393
    • Joined: 2005/07/05 20:11:34
    • Location: North Texas
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/02/28 23:29:47 (permalink)
    Laser and OEM cartridges.
     
    Perhaps http://store.hp.com/us/en...pid=pr_oos_na_1_170228
     
    FYI, the Officejet is an inkjet printer.
     

    -A jungle, however, is no place for a cellist.

    Sonar Platinum / Intel i7-4790K / ASUS Z97 Pro Wifi / 32GB RAM / Nvidia GTX560Ti / Behringer FCA610 / M-Audio Sport 2x4 / Win7 x64 Pro / WDC 4TB Black HDD's / 1TB WDC Black HDD / EVO 850 500GB SSD / EVO 850 250GB SSD / Alesis Q88 / Boss DS-330 / Korg nanoKontrol
    #8
    bluzdog
    Max Output Level: -57 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1801
    • Joined: 2007/10/06 17:15:14
    • Location: Lakewood, Colorado
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 01:04:01 (permalink)
    Laser for b&w. Way quieter, faster and economical.
     
    Rocky
    #9
    jb101
    Max Output Level: -46 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2908
    • Joined: 2011/12/04 05:26:10
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 01:33:55 (permalink)
    Thank you everyone for your much needed advice.
     
    I had settled on the idea of getting a Mono Laser for B&W, and keeping my old HP inkjet for colour.
     
    I (my wife) had then decided to simplify things a little (and save space) by having only one printer, and so I was looking to buy a colour laser.  The Brother DCP9015CDW (Catchy name, huh?) seemed a suitable candidate.
     
    This lady in the shop just threw me a little.  The figures, etc., that she produced (and I have checked them out a little, but only via t'interweb) did seem to suggest that newer Inkjets like the HP would actually work out cheaper to run than a laser, hence my quandary.
     
    You read one article that states that lasers are far cheaper to run, but then read another that says modern inkjets are now outperforming them..
     
    Ho hum..
    The general consensus seems to tie in with my original plan, though, so thank you.
     
    Oh, @ DrLumen - Thanks, yes, I know that the Officejet is an inkjet printer, that's why the "Pro Inkjet Lady" was recommending it, I guess.
     
    Thanks again everyone, I guess that I should just revert to my original plan.
     

     Sonar Platinum
    #10
    abacab
    Max Output Level: -55.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1962
    • Joined: 2014/12/31 19:34:07
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 03:56:11 (permalink)
    I recently got a HP multi-function b&w laserjet with wireless connectivity.  It is nice to be able to locate the printer anywhere instead of a USB cable length from the CPU.  Also, any device can print to it now.  It even has wifi direct so that phones and tablets can print as well.
     
    I have an old faithful HP Color Deskjet that has held up well for 15+ years, but the price of new ink cartridges is ridiculous.  This new printer was only about $50 more than another set of ink cartridges.
     
    If you shop around this can be had for as low as $147.99 USD ...
     
    HP LaserJet Pro MFP M130fw
    http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-laserjet-pro-mfp-m130fw

    Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-03; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2; CA-2A  Other:  AIR AIEP 3; AIR Ignite; Synthmaster; SONiVOX Premier, VocalizerPro; BIAB OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus H61; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 320GB 7200; PCIe FireWire (TI)  Audio: M-Audio FW-410 ASIO; M-Audio DX-4  Controllers: A-300PRO; Axiom-49; CME Xkey 25  External hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Midisport 4x4; Mackie 1202VLZ
    #11
    JonD
    Max Output Level: -44 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 3132
    • Joined: 2003/12/09 11:09:10
    • Location: East of Santa Monica
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 04:45:39 (permalink)
    abacab
    ...
    HP LaserJet Pro MFP M130fw
    http://store.hp.com/us/en/pdp/hp-laserjet-pro-mfp-m130fw

     
    +1
     
    The multi-function models are great -- I have a similar unit to the one above, only by Brother. It's real handy having an all-in-one scanner and copier, and has saved me countless trips to the office supply store just to run off a couple of copies or scan something.

    SONAR Platinum, Win 8.1 Pro, i7 2600K@4.2Ghz, Asus P8Z68 Deluxe, 16GB Crucial DDR3, GeForce GT 730, Samsung 32" and Dell 24" Monitors, Steinberg MR816X, Focusrite VRM Box, Kawai MP11 Piano, Event ALP Monitors, Beyerdynamic DT770 Pro, Too Many Plugins, My lucky hat.
    #12
    Fog
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 12190
    • Joined: 2008/02/27 21:53:35
    • Location: UK
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 06:20:14 (permalink)
    I use a very very old HP 1100 laserjet thats easily 12+ years old.. it don't even have USB , but you can get a thing of ebay to make it into a usb port.
     
    toners for it seem to last forever and are easy enough to get refilled..
     
    noticed you used the £ sign.. I gave a few laser printers away years ago on freecycle.. as people in offices used to chuck em, and if you took em apart got rid of the paper jam..most of em were fine
     
    #13
    TheSteven
    Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1516
    • Joined: 2005/03/05 01:17:06
    • Location: Southern California
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 06:45:43 (permalink)
    I have an old HP 2600 all in one inkjet.
    While it worked fine, if I can avoid it, I'll never buy another HP inkjet printer.
    If one of the cartridges (black / color) is perceived to be out of ink it won't print, scan or fax.
    Ink runs at $60 a cartridge and once a cartridge is empty the printer stores* it's ID so if you have it refilled the printer won't recognize it as usable. *I've read it stores the last 3 working ID's for each cartridge.
    I don't know if the newer models behave this way but at this point I don't care.
     
    If you've got kids or have to print stuff for work it's easy to burn through cartridges and end up spend $800+ a year in ink supplies. I'm debating on either going laser or with an Epson Ink Tank...

    "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils" Loius-Hector Berlioz

    www.AgitatedState.com MenuMagic - plug-in management powertools!
    My Tunes
    #14
    TheSteven
    Max Output Level: -60 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1516
    • Joined: 2005/03/05 01:17:06
    • Location: Southern California
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 06:52:45 (permalink)
    Fog
    I use a very very old HP 1100 laserjet thats easily 12+ years old.. it don't even have USB , but you can get a thing of ebay to make it into a usb port.
     
    toners for it seem to last forever and are easy enough to get refilled..
     
    noticed you used the £ sign.. I gave a few laser printers away years ago on freecycle.. as people in offices used to chuck em, and if you took em apart got rid of the paper jam..most of em were fine
     




    Those HP 1100's were/are workhorses. A guy I worked for got it new and still uses it. He's had it serviced a couple times but it's still chuggin.

    "Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils" Loius-Hector Berlioz

    www.AgitatedState.com MenuMagic - plug-in management powertools!
    My Tunes
    #15
    mudgel
    Max Output Level: 0 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 11318
    • Joined: 2004/08/13 00:56:05
    • Location: Linton Victoria (Near Ballarat)
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 09:19:32 (permalink)
    When it comes to comparing colour laser with colour inkjet I say that the inkjet are cheaper to run and buy.

    It all depends if you can afford the space that 2 printers take.

    Monochrome printing = laser is more economical

    Colour printing = inkjet is mor economical

    If you can only have one machine. Your budget should determine the outcome. Inkjet is cheaper.

    Mike V.

    STUDIO:Win 10 x64, SONAR Platinum x64, 
    PC: ASUS P9X79 PRO, INTEL i7 E3930k, 32GIG DDR3 1800, 7 TB SSD & SATA III Storage
    Raven MTi + 43"HD TV Monitor
    #16
    fireberd
    Max Output Level: -45.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 2980
    • Joined: 2008/02/25 14:14:28
    • Location: Inverness, FL
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 15:24:16 (permalink)
    Some newer HP inkjets will accept non new HP cartridges.  It will give you a "warning" that its not an HP cartridge but that's all.  I've tried non OEM cartridges (several brands) on a different printer, not my current one, and they were less expensive but they had less ink and some worked OK and some didn't. I bought some "refilled" cartridges one time and two of them leaked ink internally in the printer and was a mess.  I now avoid all the hassles or potential hassles and just bite the bullet and buy OEM.

    Franklin D-10 Pedal Steel Guitar (primary instrument). Dobro, Tele, Gretsch Chet Atkins, 4 and 5 string basses, etc. 
    ASUS Maximus VIII Hero M/B, i7 6700K CPU, 16GB Ram, SSD and conventional hard drives, Win 10 Pro and Win 10 Pro Insider Pre-Release
    Sonar Platinum 64 bit. MOTU 896MK3 Hybrid, Tranzport, X-Touch, JBL LSR308 Monitors,  
    Ozone, (backup unit Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 2nd Gen)

    ISRC Registered

    Member of Nashville based R.O.P.E. Assn.
    #17
    abacab
    Max Output Level: -55.5 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 1962
    • Joined: 2014/12/31 19:34:07
    • Status: offline
    Re: Printers - Laser or Inkjet? 2017/03/01 15:35:21 (permalink)
    Another downside to inkjet is when you use them infrequently.  The cartridges can dry up between uses.  This makes the cost per copy a bit on the high side, due to cartridge replacement costs.
     
    I have been moving to a paperless lifestyle these past few years, mostly printing to PDF, except where I absolutely need a hard copy.
     
    This influenced my decision overall to move to b&w laser printing.  If I need color, I'll just put a PDF on a thumb drive and visit the local copy shop.  Still cheaper

    Cakewalk: Sonar Platinum x64 2017-03; X3e; Dimension Pro; Rapture, Z3TA+2; CA-2A  Other:  AIR AIEP 3; AIR Ignite; Synthmaster; SONiVOX Premier, VocalizerPro; BIAB OS: Win10 Pro x64 1607 System: Homebuilt Asus H61; i3 3.4Ghz; 8GB DDR3; Intel HD Graphics; Dual Monitors; Samsung EVO 850 SSD, 250GB; WD 320GB 7200; PCIe FireWire (TI)  Audio: M-Audio FW-410 ASIO; M-Audio DX-4  Controllers: A-300PRO; Axiom-49; CME Xkey 25  External hardware: Roland JV880; JV1080; XP-30; Alesis QS-6; Casio CZ-1000; Midisport 4x4; Mackie 1202VLZ
    #18
    Jump to:
    © 2017 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1