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Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
What does it do? I opened up the Users Guide and searched for Gloss which returned 0 instances found.  When I click it and it turns blue I hear no change.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 17:53:22
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I think it adds some er... gloss..... Sorry couldn't resist it. 
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 19:08:36
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The Gloss in the Gloss EQ stands for smooth and transparent. Just like a linear phase, but without the CPU hit to your system.
FYI: There is no Gloss Definition, its just the name o for that type of setting.
Cj
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 19:13:02
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Actually, that's not quite accurate. It's a separate band that adds sheen to the upper-mid/ high frequencies. Try it on HiHats, Overheads, or anything else that needs a little sparkle added to it. It's in the Help file in the EQ section of the ProChannel section.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 19:19:35
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This is from Brain Desmond, an Admin from Cakewalk "The Gloss EQ isn't an LP EQ. LP EQs take too much CPU and also add latency, and we didn't want either of those on every channel by default.
We needed something that sounded absolutely stunning, but still worked in real-time, and used little CPU. It sounded like an impossible goal, but I can say with confidence that we pulled it off.
The Gloss EQ sounds absolutely beautiful, it's smooth & transparent, and sounds amazing in the high end, even with bigger boosts. The HP & LP filters are ultra smooth, and sound killer when you sweep them."
So is Brian Desmond wrong??? because thats where I got my info!! Who is correct, you or Brian? Cj
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 19:23:07
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CJ, you are misunderstanding the information. Gloss EQ is the name of the EQ, which is how Brian refers to it. The Gloss button is a function of the EQ and does as I described.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 20:29:12
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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Actually, that's not quite accurate. It's a separate band that adds sheen to the upper-mid/ high frequencies. Try it on HiHats, Overheads, or anything else that needs a little sparkle added to it. It's in the Help file in the EQ section of the ProChannel section.
I've tried using the 'gloss' feature, but I don't hear any difference. I guess it is only good for HH and OHs? Whooppi. What about vocals and guitars or even acoustic pianos?
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 20:37:50
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☄ Helpfulby SoundIT 2017/05/16 13:26:32
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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Actually, that's not quite accurate. It's a separate band that adds sheen to the upper-mid/ high frequencies. Try it on HiHats, Overheads, or anything else that needs a little sparkle added to it. It's in the Help file in the EQ section of the ProChannel section.
I've tried using the 'gloss' feature, but I don't hear any difference. I guess it is only good for HH and OHs? Whooppi. What about vocals and guitars or even acoustic pianos?
Did you read the, "anything else that needs a little sparkle added to it" part of my last post? It works on anything.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/12 20:59:49
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Seth,
I really appreciate your feedback re: 'The Gloss' and all the other info you're willing to share. It really makes the forum a whole lot better and more informative place.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 00:34:06
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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Actually, that's not quite accurate. It's a separate band that adds sheen to the upper-mid/ high frequencies. Try it on HiHats, Overheads, or anything else that needs a little sparkle added to it. It's in the Help file in the EQ section of the ProChannel section.
I've tried using the 'gloss' feature, but I don't hear any difference. I guess it is only good for HH and OHs? Whooppi. What about vocals and guitars or even acoustic pianos?
Did you read the, "anything else that needs a little sparkle added to it" part of my last post? It works on anything.
Like I said, "I don't hear any difference." So, I guess it only [works well] on HH and OHs.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 00:42:40
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The gloss button is instantly noticeable to me. I little more CPU but I've tested it on a number different things.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 00:49:07
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it's a button to test ones' hearing? ;-D
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 00:50:55
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Though I'm not sure I have a "technical" way to describe it, I think seth said it best.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 01:23:54
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bitman
What does it do?
I opened up the Users Guide and searched for Gloss which returned 0 instances found.
When I click it and it turns blue I hear no change.
I don't know, all depends perhaps what kind of studio monitors and hardware system you use? I can only say that I can hear night and day difference in my studio, ON or OFF. I recommend that you have it ON more or less as default. It sound much more open sound and warm especially in the higher frequency register. Best Regards Freddie
post edited by Freddie H - 2010/12/13 01:28:51
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 02:03:35
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I've tried using the 'gloss' feature, but I don't hear any difference. I guess it is only good for HH and OHs? Whooppi. What about vocals and guitars or even acoustic pianos?
Works with anything mate, it s really transparent thats maybe why you aren't hearing it right
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 02:07:49
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Chregg
I've tried using the 'gloss' feature, but I don't hear any difference. I guess it is only good for HH and OHs? Whooppi. What about vocals and guitars or even acoustic pianos?
Works with anything mate, it s really transparent thats maybe why you aren't hearing it right
+1 yes exactly as tube sat...
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 02:39:08
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Yep, it's a subtle thing. Now, I don't know what the curve/freq is so I'm not sure it's the same but for some reason it reminds me a bit of "air" that were (or maybe still are) on mackie control boards? I'm sure they are not the same, just saying that is what it reminds me of.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 10:48:04
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It's nothing complex. It's a 3dB high frequency shelf boost. Starting around 4k. You won't hear anything unless your signal has HF content. 
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 12:01:52
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rhythminmind
It's nothing complex. It's a 3dB high frequency shelf boost. Starting around 4k. You won't hear anything unless your signal has HF content.
...which would also explain why those of us "of a certain age" are having trouble detecting that it's doing anything. I for one have admitted and have made (relative) peace with the fact that I can't hear zip past 10k. It's unfortunately, a region where I have to mix with my eyes.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 12:20:50
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Bro Bitman,
I would also like to know if there could be a .pcp prochannel sharing spot on the cakewalk site where the prochannel custom settings that folks come up with could be shared among the members... would greatly enhance this tool for those of us that are channel challenged.
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 15:48:53
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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CJ, you are misunderstanding the information. Gloss EQ is the name of the EQ, which is how Brian refers to it. The Gloss button is a function of the EQ and does as I described.
uh oh............ 
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 15:59:51
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I know a couple live show mixers who have to mix by "sight" because they can't hear the highs anymore. Watch out for those headphones too!
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 18:27:31
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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Actually, that's not quite accurate. It's a separate band that adds sheen to the upper-mid/ high frequencies. Try it on HiHats, Overheads, or anything else that needs a little sparkle added to it. It's in the Help file in the EQ section of the ProChannel section.
I've tried using the 'gloss' feature, but I don't hear any difference. I guess it is only good for HH and OHs? Whooppi. What about vocals and guitars or even acoustic pianos?
Geez! Do you ever have anything positive to say?
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 18:45:13
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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CJ, you are misunderstanding the information. Gloss EQ is the name of the EQ, which is how Brian refers to it. The Gloss button is a function of the EQ and does as I described.
uh oh............
Now now let's not start sending things in the wrong direction.  Seth and CJ are both right and are talking about two different things, the button and the EQ itself. Thanks, Robin
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 19:34:22
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...which would also explain why those of us "of a certain age" are having trouble detecting that it's doing anything. I for one have admitted and have made (relative) peace with the fact that I can't hear zip past 10k. It's unfortunately, a region where I have to mix with my eyes. Hahah, maybe they should've called it the "GleeQ"
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Re:Pro Channel EQ Gloss Button?
2010/12/13 19:55:44
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Seth Perlstein [Cakewalk
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...wicked
Hahah, maybe they should've called it the "GleeQ"
That would have required an accompanying musical number. Ugh, no thanks.
+1
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