Pro Channel EQ and VS-700C knobs mismatch

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i'm sure (hope!) you'll get a high-priority change in pro-channel, or at least some new decals to stick over the top

hello cake walk !!!!!do you see this thread ?????

It's so obvious that  if they test SONAR X1 and VS-700C  together, they can get it in a glance !!!!!!!

They mentioned they have not yet updated the 700. And will do so in Februari. In the mean time they expect you to use 8.5

Hi sarmad_dehnada

When the VS700C was released,  the *only* reason I did not get one is because it was designed to integrate very tightly with the exisiting Sonar - the Sonar/Sonitus EQ being a key example - this was / is always a big risk.

With the Pro Channel,  everything changes - it has somenthing like  ~ 50 controls across all  3  elements - if you look at the VS700C, it has  12 Channel Strip Rotaries [ and each of these I *think* is also a push button ]

50 does not go in to 12 / 24 easily.

Long-story short.  Using the X1  Pro Channel with a VS700C will require  *a lot*  of   combined SHIFT / ALT / CTRL / BANK + / -   useage  ....... not to mention a lot of ACT re-programming.

I'm sure CW are working on this as we speak  *but*  it will take a lot of   " re-ACT'ing "  and work  a lot differnelty to the current Channel Strip EQ and the VS700C - because of the sheer number of controls, it will not work anywhere near as fluidly as the current VS700C / EQ combo ..... but thats just the way it is.

For what its worth, I have just finished  re-programming a new ACT Template for my Nocturn which allows for full Pro Channel COMP control,  full Pro Channel SATURATION control  and  *most* of the Pro Channel EQ Control - its working a treat and I will do a specific post about it in the next few days once my testing is finished - but it has taken a HUGE amount of time and ACT conffiguring - but it works magnificently and very intuitivly with the Nocturn - and remeber the Nocturn is a $90 controller - I use it with a MCU.

Dont worry though - CW are definelty on top of this - I reckon you will see a new  X1 VS700C Control Surface plugin no later than NAMM [ Feb 2011 ]  at the latest.

Tom 

That's why I questioned whether there is an ini file for the VS tucked away somewhere?

 If so you may be able to edit it. That's what I done with the MCU ini file, you just get it to read the controls in the order you want it to. i.e. correct the problem you are seeing.

Worth a look isn't it?

John T


Well, there's actually no way to make that not confusing. His point is that the level controls on the PC should be moved to the top row. I agree with him myself.

Ah, I've got it now - after being told 3 times and having a picture drawn for me.... I thought the control assignment was messed up. Sorry, I'm a confused soul.

seems reasonable enough to me. Actually it's a bit embarrassing, since it's kind of arbitrary where they put onscreen controls why not make it match your premium controller? The rest of us won't know the difference (or care). FWIW, the way it's set up on the VS makes a bit more sense to me anyway... 

Agreed. I also think it should be changed (if it's a reasonably easy fix).  Fix it now means very few people ever get aware that it went oops at all.

It's almost as if it was planned to be correct but an evil little gremlin went in over night and juggled the rows.
If you listen hard you can still faintly hear him go "mmmuuuuhahahahaha!"

You've got to wonder how little things (or a big thing depending on your viewpoint) like this get through the net.

I mean you can't expect them to program the interface to match your average controller. But you would expect your flagship DAW software to match your own flagship controller, wouldn't you?

FastBikerBoy


You've got to wonder how little things (or a big thing depending on your viewpoint) like this get through the net.

I mean you can't expect them to program the interface to match your average controller. But you would expect your flagship DAW software to match your own flagship controller, wouldn't you?

I believe I can expect a full integration between the hardware and software which the company swears have the most integration ever !!!!!!! for me it's funny( and frustrating) to see they don't pay attention to this basic thing. I hope they correct this mistake  ASAP .

Just a personal point of view, this, but... Before I got a V700 I thought this would really matter, and it actually put me off getting one for a while. In practice, I find I don't even look at the on-screen knobs. You've got the controls on the console, and you've got the EQ plot showing you what's happening. I kind of agree that it's an odd one that they didn't match it up, but in the end, I don't think it makes any difference.

John T, in fact, you're right. I just stayed with the idea on how could they make the GUI of Pro Channel without thinking about VS-700C, the dedicated hardware to Sonar.

I agree it would be nice (for aesthetic reasons) to have the knobs on-screen match, in practical terms, I always look at the labels on the console. Actually, I don't even really look any more because I've pretty much memorized where all the controls are... know what I mean? 


Scott

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Chregg

yeah but you would think with an overhaul of the sonar gui that they would take it into consideration,considering the 700 cost a few grand !!!

Oh, I agree... it would definitely look more professional.



Scott

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