Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition

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2011/06/27 14:14:06 (permalink)

Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition

hey I just reinstalled Sonar 7 Studio Edition on a new computer. I'm running the 32-bit version of sonar on my new 64-bit windows 7 system. The problem is a that most of my previous cakewalk project won't open. The plug-in Boost 11 also won't open up. When I open either boost 11 or a old file, sonar stops responding and i have to shut it off. Any reason why this might happen? I thought I read somewhere that boost 11 is only for the 32-bit version, but even though I got a 64-bit computer, I install sonar as the 32-bit version.
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/27 23:15:39 (permalink)
    You did nothing wrong - 32-bit SONAR will run fine on 64-bit W7. Have you verified that Boost11 exists on the new computer? You should have a folder named \program files\cakewalk\vstplugins\boost11, and boost11.dll should reside within it.


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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 09:42:41 (permalink)
    for the 32 bit install of Sonar on a Win7x64 machine the path should be:
    Program Files (x86)\Cakewalk\Vstplugins\Boost11

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 11:17:54 (permalink)
    Thanks for that correction, Tom. As you can see, I am still firmly planted in the 32-bit world.

    I also like things that are made out of wood, and don't trust paperless airplane tickets. I am strongly considering one of those new "color" televisions this year, though.


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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 12:56:23 (permalink)
    It's not very often (never, I can't think of once) that your advice is not spot on Dave!

    I moved to x64 kicking and screaming, but I have to say I'm loving Win7x32 and x64.
    Running 8.5.3 and X1 simultaneously is stressing the old dog though.
    Let me customize the tool bar and I'd be an advocate...
    X1c, maybe?

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 13:20:36 (permalink)
    yep the path is: program files (x86)/cakewalk/vstplugins/boost11
    and yes boost11.dll is inside the folder, however every time I click on the dll file, my computer tries to scan for the file, then stops responding and I must close it. but the boost11 file definitely appears to be there along with all my other vstplugins and stuff.
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 13:28:03 (permalink)
    also when I try and open the boost11.dll with sonar, its says that "the file you are trying to open is not compatiable with this version of sonar"
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 15:53:26 (permalink)
    I may be wrong so someone correct me, But is it not true that Sonar 7 will only install on a 32 Bit OS?? I was to understand that what you have to do is install 2 versions of Windows 7.  A 32 bit and a 64 bit. Or has this changed. Sonar 7 came out on the cusp of Vista and I don;t think 64 bit was on the radar yet.  My wife just got a new laptop with W7 64 bit so I guess I'll get a chance to try it when she's not looking. ( I to use Sonar 7 Prod. on XP )

    You might want to dig through the old posts from when W7 first came out and see what the buzz was back then.
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 17:28:15 (permalink)
    ight Cactus Music thanks i'll give that a try
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 19:01:43 (permalink)
    bitflipper

    I am still firmly planted in the 32-bit world.

    I also like things that are made out of wood, and don't trust paperless airplane tickets. I am strongly considering one of those new "color" televisions this year, though.
    I'd bet that your music is a bit retro too.  Mine is.

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 21:30:37 (permalink)
    Forget I directed you to search the forum,,, Even typing in "Sonar 7" will net you threads on X1. I have never used the search function much and now I see why everybody avoids it.
    I did find a lot of threads regarding plug ins not working during the transition period.

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 21:37:32 (permalink)
    Cactus Music

    Forget I directed you to search the forum,,, Even typing in "Sonar 7" will net you threads on X1. I have never used the search function much and now I see why everybody avoids it.
    For better results, use Google for searching the forum.

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 21:37:44 (permalink)
    Ok I found something in the Sonar 7 prod Knowledge base.

    What is SONAR x64?
    SONAR x64 Edition is a fully native 64-bit version of SONAR , the definitive audio production environment on the Windows platform. SONAR Studio and Producer include installation packages for both 32bit and 64bit environments. You can only install SONAR x64 under Windows Vista x64 edition or Windows 7 x64 edition.
    What features are not supported under SONAR x64 at this time?
    The following features are not supported in SONAR x64 at this time:
    1. ReWire support for 32-bit clients like Project 5 V2, Reason, and Fruity Loops
    2. 32-bit DirectX plug-ins
    3. DreamStation DXi2
    4. MPEX time/pitch stretching. A 64-bit library is not available for the MPEX time/pitch stretching algorithm, so this feature is not supported in SONAR x64. Use iZotope Radius or SONAR’s internal time/pitch stretching instead.
    5. Apple has yet to release QuickTime for Windows x64, so QuickTime import/export is not yet supported. Note: MPG 1 movie files can be imported.
    Any application that is specifically supported under Vista or Windows 7, has also been approved to function under Vista x64 or Windows 7 x64 (in 32-bit emulation mode). This means that if an application such as: Guitar Track Pro 4, Music Creator 5, or SONAR Home Studio 7 does not list 64-bit OS support on the packaging or system requirements, this is only referring to native 64-bit support.



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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 21:49:12 (permalink)
    Well A little more digging and I find old spec sheets that have this claim

    Sonar does not support Windows XP-64 bit. So not sure if they changed this later on.


    Interesting aside, Found the info from a web site called Black Market ..where you can buy it for only $29.. Claims its copy of original.. how do these guy's get away with that?

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/28 23:19:18 (permalink)
    haha wow im not sure how they did that. anyways, it seems that mostly the unsupported plug-ins are my problem cause most everything works fine. I know sonar wasn't meant for windows 7 x64, but it seems to run ok i guess
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/29 11:27:14 (permalink)
    32-bit SONAR runs just fine under W7-64. The problems arise when you want to use 32-bit plugins under 64-bit SONAR. Sometimes, it just doesn't work. However, you can often use J-Bridge, an inexpensive third-party substitute for the integrated BitBridge, to get around those problems. That solution only works for VSTs, though, not 32-bit DX plugins.


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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/30 19:22:44 (permalink)
    Oh ok that would work cause the VST plugin boost11 is the main one I'm having problems with
     
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/06/30 23:40:23 (permalink)
    No, you shouldn't have to get J-Bridge just to use Boost11. I believe there is a 64-bit version of Boost11. Somebody who's running 64-bit SONAR will have to verify that.



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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/07/01 00:33:50 (permalink)
    Boost 11 is not worth wasting time trying to get it to work. Just go download something better AND FREE,  from KVR site.

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/07/01 08:11:30 (permalink)
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    No, you shouldn't have to get J-Bridge just to use Boost11. I believe there is a 64-bit version of Boost11. Somebody who's running 64-bit SONAR will have to verify that.


    yes, there is a 32bit version and a 64bit version.  if you open the plugin manager, you'll see boost11 and boost11_64

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/07/01 11:24:15 (permalink)
    That's probably the OP's problem, then - he's trying to load the 32-bit Boost11 into the 64-bit version of SONAR.

    BTW, I tend to agree with Cactus' sentiments about Boost11. As limiters go, it's rather, uh, limited.


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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/07/01 16:35:27 (permalink)
    I agree as well.  I have used it a couple of times, but wasn't impressed and so I don't think I've used it again since.  you have no real control over it.

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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/07/02 18:51:59 (permalink)

    I agree as well. I have used it a couple of times, but wasn't impressed and so I don't think I've used it again since. you have no real control over it.

    Hey!  I love Boost11.  It is the perfect tool for guys like me with tater-tots fer brains.  When you really don't understand sound, and compression, and attack, and all the other stuff that's going on Boost11 just works.
     
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    Re:Problem with Sonar 7 Studio Edition 2011/07/02 18:58:55 (permalink)
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    I agree as well. I have used it a couple of times, but wasn't impressed and so I don't think I've used it again since. you have no real control over it.

    Hey!  I love Boost11.  It is the perfect tool for guys like me with tater-tots fer brains.  When you really don't understand sound, and compression, and attack, and all the other stuff that's going on Boost11 just works.
     


    I've fiddled with it a bit and while I don't really have anything against it I think it's main drawback is that it's easy to use right and even easier to use wrong.
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