Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer

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2014/10/26 16:03:34 (permalink)

Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer

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    Sorry for poor english but I can not find the answer for my problem. I have a problem since yesterday with very slow and time-consuming rendering the "audio preview" (all tracks are "busy"). There are no effects on any track and the playback and recording process is 100% fine. There are only 3 demo guide tracks to help the drummer. After finishing the take all tracks are busy for 15-40 seconds (9 drum tracks recorded at the same time in 16bit/44.1kHz with 'roland studio capture' interface on SSD Drive which is 65% empty). When I click "undo recording" the SONAR freezes for about 15-40 seconds and I it remains crashed but it always return to work after this time I mentioned. It happened in the middle of the second song (first song everything went smoothly without any problems like that and also it didn't happen to me in the past). It stayed like that for the rest of the song and also in the third song (in another project - so it isn't one-project bug). I couldn't fix this so the drummer left the room after 3rd song and we will record in the next week... It was really horrible he had to wait some time after every take for the next try...
 
How can I fix this? What could have happened?   Any ideas?  

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    Bristol_Jonesey
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    Re: Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer 2014/10/26 17:39:12 (permalink)
    9 drum tracks recorded at the same time in 16bit/44.1kHz with Roland studio capture' interface on SSD Drive which is 65% empty

     
    Just curious, why do you mention the SSD when you have the 1TB Seagate?
     
    1. Which drive are you using to store your Sonar projects?
    2. Are you using "Per Project Audio Files"?
    3. Have you cleared your picture cache out recently?

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    Re: Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer 2014/10/26 17:41:48 (permalink)
    Bristol_Jonesey
    Have you cleared your picture cache out recently?

    Or sized the cache to fit your needs?
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    Re: Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer 2014/10/26 18:25:29 (permalink)
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    9 drum tracks recorded at the same time in 16bit/44.1kHz with Roland studio capture' interface on SSD Drive which is 65% empty

     
    Just curious, why do you mention the SSD when you have the 1TB Seagate?
     
    1. Which drive are you using to store your Sonar projects?
    2. Are you using "Per Project Audio Files"?
    3. Have you cleared your picture cache out recently?


    1. I store the finished projects on the 1TB Seagate, but the projects I'm working on are stored on Crucial 240GB SSD.
    2. I don't know what does it mean exactly but I do have separate project file and audio files are stored in "audio" folder.
    3. Should I delete all the files in that folder? It has 568MB of data
     

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    Re: Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer 2014/10/26 18:59:35 (permalink)
    Just to check you do have fast bounce on right?

    Best
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    Re: Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer 2014/10/26 19:18:30 (permalink)
    hubertous
     Should I delete all the files in that folder? It has 568MB of data

    Couldn't hurt especially if the cache is full. The cache should contain only WOV and WTR files. The files are recreated as needed.
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    Re: Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer 2014/10/26 20:21:31 (permalink)
    In my experience, after recording a bunch of tracks for a while and you hit stop, the virus scanner kicks in and starts scanning the new files.
     
    Since they are 24bit 192 haha, it takes a while.
     
    At the same time, Sonar is trying to spin the disk to read the files to create good wave forms.
     
    And of course, you return to Zero to record second takes of all 200 hundred tracks. :P
     
    So there is an IO backlog. Sonar stops trying to read the files to create the wave forms once you start trying to record again, but you can barely tell. The virus scanner is still scanning so you only record for a few seconds before you get a drop out.
     
    Maybe?
     
    If you disable the virus scanner which can be found here for Windows 8...
    Control Panel\System and Security\Action Center
    And see if your problem doesn't clear up.
     
    If this proves to be the issue, you can also tell Windows Defender to not monitor the directories in which you save all your Sonar Projects.
     
    See if that helps.

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    Re: Problem with very slow rendering "audio preview" SONAR X3 Producer 2014/10/26 20:38:11 (permalink)
    Do you mean the redrawing of wave file peeks and wave form visual on track views after recording, saying "busy" while drawing in the peeks and such?...Seems here on my system, the more tracks I record at once, and time in record mode doing so (long Jams of 2-4 hrs of up to 12- 16 tracks here, and going to be adding more gear to extend that soon to 32) 
     The longer it takes to redraw the wave info on the screen for each track , seems to go with amounts of tracks recorded and length of the recording time...,...So I am not sure if fast Bounce is for the problem noted in record redraw...I think Fast bounce is to bounce after recording to a stereo wave of all or selected tracks once recorded, does this more quickly...?
    This seems to be right after recording the busy line drawing peeks, I get a Busy time out while the peeks draw in...track by track sometimes...and could take up to 5 min or more depending on X..........Wink....I was told I could turn off a record draw feature (not remembering the page in preferences) but that only turned off the Drawing while recording (so you see nothing being drawn while recording, but goes busy anyway after it is stopped...as was before turning off that feature).....the only difference is, you see nothing being drawn while in record mode....and that could be hard to take no notice of....with so many things gone wrong with different software Saying recording too short, or failed to do...and not recording anything at all is a wasted day...So at least I get that recorded, and then wait...is best....This no draw while recording process seems unnerving to me...so I turned it back on to draw while recording, So I at least know, it is engaged and drawing something and seeing it being done, shows something is working ok?.... kind of eases the mind...(sort of)....but yah the busy thing is here with me...So if it can be snuffed, with out issues, I would like to know....but so far, no bad recordings or crashes , and able to save and open the files after...in x3e...so I allow for the delays.....if it ain't broke leave it be....Some say.

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