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2018/07/01 12:05:12 (permalink)

Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace

Here is a new original song performed by Scandalous Grace.  As always, all comments are very welcome.  I hope you enjoy.
 
Prodigal Son:
Performed by Scandalous Grace 
Words & Mu­sic: Michael Hanson
Sean Peifer: BG Vox, Electric Rhythm, Guitar Solos.
Michael Hanson: Lead Vocal, Bass, Electric Rhythm, Guitar Solos, Drum Programming, Mixing and mastering.
Reece Bain: Keys and BG Voxs.
 
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/05 08:17:46 (permalink)
I like the sound of the acoustic on the left. The lead that comes in before the vocal is a tad overpowering. There's not much difference in the tonal qualities between the part that sounds like the verse and the part right after it that sounds more like a chorus...it's all the same instrumentation, tone and level. Maybe you could shake things up a bit there with some different textures. There's not a lot of space in the mix...it's dense...like every part wants to fire all the time every time. That's all I have for now. 
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/05 13:40:51 (permalink)
First, .. I think under all the mix there's a great song, it's just lost in lead guitar fighting the drums and overpowering what's left to leave what I believe is a good vocal arrangement. If it were me ( and I know 'cause I've done it loadsa times) Keep all the bits and just start again with say just piano and vox ... then build it form there. It may be that this was mixed with cans over a couple of days and the imperfections become the norm as your ears loose sensitivity or not, but whatever it's worth a remix and the time, cause as said it's a good piece of work.  
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/05 14:20:29 (permalink)
I agree with Supa. There's a good song in there, but if that piano was done with midi, I would try a different patch. It sounds like an upright piano, and I just didn't care for the sound of it, and that kind of sets the tone for the song. Wasn't real taken with the lead guitar sound either to be honest. I would roll back on the volume control to soften up the tone a bit and get more of that dreamy Robin Trower "Daydream" vibe going. The song's not bad the way it is, but a few changes in tone would take it to a much higher plane in my opinion.
 
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/06 11:26:35 (permalink)
Have to agree with the above comments this mix is not up to your usual standards chaps, will keep the furry ears out for the remix. 

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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/07 16:55:44 (permalink)
Thanks Guys for listening.  I mixed this one in Studio One, which is brand new to me.  Having such a huge learning curve has distracted me some from listening critically to the mix.  I will make some tweaks to some of the tracks.  I am not moving to Studio One, but am trying to be proficient in multiple DAW's.
 
By the way, the piano, according to Reece, is a Grand Piano; I think its just the style of play, jabbing at the keys.  I asked him to give me something in the style of How My Guitar Gently Weeps and I felt like he nailed it.  
 
The first lead guitar, I will try to tame with some EQ, but I'm not going to re-track the entire Lead.  It is mic'd from a real amp, so its not a simple tweak.  Funny enough, no one has complained about my guitar tone for over 5 years....until I mic'd a real amp.     
 
I will let everyone know when I post an updated mix.
 
 

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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/08 00:12:09 (permalink)
I have uploaded a new mix for this song; hopefully, addressing many of the issues of the previous version.  Let me know what you think of this new mix.  

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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/08 01:56:50 (permalink)
That's a lot better. Drums may be a bit too loud when they first come in.
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/08 02:18:49 (permalink)
I think this mix does sound better, Mike.  I can hear the hammond better in this one as well!
 
Just to be clear, the piano is the Motif Yamaha Grand.  no midi was harmed in the recording of this piano...
 


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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/19 20:33:03 (permalink)
Glad to know that the midi are safe.  

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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/23 13:02:46 (permalink)
Still a good song but I have to say more or less what has been flagged up before, that said this is a better mix though ... just needs a little careful love
 
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/23 17:06:57 (permalink)
Hey Mike, this is a good demo of your song -- the vocals sit well in the mix and the sound is clearly defined.  Sure, there can be a nit here and there with guitar tone or whatnot but that's a matter of taste.  (That said, the guitar tone on the break is very nice.)  
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/23 18:54:30 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby daryl1968 2018/07/24 10:19:04
Seeing as how this is just a demo, this is good enough.  Good song btw.

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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/24 10:21:46 (permalink)
Good stuff chaps. 
The vocal reminds me of a long lost Tom Petty song - uncanny.
 
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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/25 11:26:17 (permalink)
SupaReels- Thanks for listening, I'm glad the mix is sounding better.  
 
ABull-  Thank you for listening as well.  There are two Lead Guitar tones happening in this song. I am the first Les Paul that enters the Leads and those tones are recorded through a real Fender Bassbreaker.  The second Lead guitar is always Sean, he is using the full version of TH3, I believe.  Sean has a really nice touch. 
 
You have called this a Demo, though and we are striving for more than a Demo, so if you have any mix suggestions that you feel would make this a better song, please share.
 
David- "Good enough for a demo", is not what we are after.  We have 2 CD's up at iTunes and our songs are starting to get consideration at radio stations here locally.  We have had 1 song that made it to radio and 2 CD's being reviewed right now.  No....we are after a finished product...so if you have more mix advice, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Prodigal Son- by Scandalous Grace 2018/07/27 15:43:12 (permalink)
daryl1968
Good stuff chaps. 
The vocal reminds me of a long lost Tom Petty song - uncanny.
 

 
Daryl- Thanks for the listen.  I get the Petty comment a lot.  It's definitely not intentional on my part.  I have also been known to get a little Lennonism in my voice from time to time.  I guess it all goes back to your roots.  

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