Project5.com dead or just comatose?

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RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/05/24 01:28:12 (permalink)
LOL! With some synths loaded, I sometimes idle between 20 and 30%!

How many tracks are you trying to run?

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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/05/24 10:07:48 (permalink)
    ... And back to the subject of the thread momentarily...

    Still no update of Project5.com.

    Got an email last week (5/17) from Jesse Jost saying that it is "intended to be a predominantly user-supported site", but also that "an update is planned for this week."

    Just to noodge them a little, I'll quote the site itself: "Welcome to the Project5.com website - the place for all things Project5. We will be updating this site constantly with articles, tutorials, and tips and tricks - and it's all FREE for the taking!" Hmmm... updating this site constantly ;-) I'm sure they're just busy with Kinetic.

    Maybe I'll do some drum loops and post them. Or groove clips, considering that I've got dialup.

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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/05/25 15:33:00 (permalink)
    Finally, an update!!!!
    Oh... wait... sorry, no just DigitalAura's new song.
    Oh well.
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/02 16:29:38 (permalink)
    what's going on Cakewalk? no updates no the P5 website for ages, no results of that song competition, we want to see some action, show us you're alive!
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/03 22:15:37 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: TheOrphan

    Finally, an update!!!!
    Oh... wait... sorry, no just DigitalAura's new song.
    Oh well.

    LOL and you wouldn't believe the hassle that was!!! It wouldnt let me upload JUST the mp3..so I had to FAKE a zip file as well!!
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/04 05:31:47 (permalink)
    i know what you mean! i think that upload must allow MP3 only uploads, since most of us use also other VST instruments, not just P5 synths, so noone will be able to open our P5 files anyway.
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/04 08:39:44 (permalink)
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    i think that upload must allow MP3 only uploads, since most of us use also other VST instruments, not just P5 synths, so noone will be able to open our P5 files anyway.


    Oh, I like that you can download a native P5 song and play it right outta P5. You can see the structure and everything.

    However, considering the size limitation, and the VST / synth complications you mention, that will be rare, except maybe for creations by DA -- sworn to use P5 exclusively -- IF he can he can keep it within the confines of his pants pockets.

    In this case, size DOES matter!

    And the bit about having to upload a p5p or zipped file before the MP3 option kicks in -- that's just plain NUTS. What were they thinking, or not?

    Mebbe they thought that would encourage people to post native P5 songs, short beat-happy nothings like Fruity’s download de’jure.

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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/04 12:08:46 (permalink)
    exactly. i mean , even if someone will download my track in P5 format, nothing can be played, as half of the tracks are external VST insrtuments, not to mention the samples for Velocity or DS sampler. so Cakewalk - please let us upload MP3s without that P5/zip request .
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/23 08:42:34 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: agincourtdb

    No update since March 4 on the front page, and that was announcing a contest that scheduled to end a month and a half ago??

    Some new songs uploaded lately by users in content/songs, but Sounds and Patterns have been dead since Grandpa's uploads of 3/8...

    Is anyone supporting Project5? Other than technical support, I mean...

    I love the program, but I see all these other apps with pages bristling with content and activity, and I wonder why we poor P5 junkies are missing out.

    Maybe there's other sites I don't know about?

    -AgincourtDB, P5 + Sonar3P

    Grandpa, thanks loads for the Velocity Kits, still sorting through, a great selection.


    The Project 5 banner on the P5 forum is a start I guess. Although more could be done.Kinetic is out now so maybe things will pick up for P5.
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/26 01:57:04 (permalink)
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    Some new songs uploaded lately by users in content/songs, but Sounds and Patterns have been dead since Grandpa's uploads of 3/8...

    Is anyone supporting Project5? Other than technical support, I mean...



    User imput is about it. Where's the beef?

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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/26 18:20:26 (permalink)
    Thanks for your comments.

    Here is what we were thinking:

    The web has many sites that let you upload an MP3. We wanted to do something special: Provide a place dedicated to Project5 files. Why? So that Project5 owners could learn from each other. When you listen to a song, you may wonder, "how did they do that?". When you have the actual P5P file, you can see exactly how. That's pretty cool. At least I've learned stuff, from downloading and listening to your songs.

    What makes this possible is the fact that Project5 comes with a full set of instruments and effects, that every Project5 owner shares.

    Admittedly, unlike some products, Project5 doesn't limit you to the instruments and effects it provides. So you can make a song using plugins that another P5 user may lack.

    With version 1.5 we did set up a "plugin database". If you open a song that uses plugins you don't own, P5 can take you to our web site so you can find out more about them. Maybe a demo version is available, or maybe you've been thinking about buying that plugin anyway. The database needs to be filled in with more information, which we need to work on, but the mechanism is in place.

    Project5.com was designed to be for Project5 owners, first and foremost. If it was just a marketing web site, we'd have made it "here are a bunch of neat sounding MP3s, play them and buy the product". But as I explained, we really wanted to encourage owners to share their Project5 files with each other.

    Is this "encouragement" to upload the Project5 file too strong? Would you like to see this changed? Or does my explanation make you feel differently about it? Let us know, because if most of you aren't happy with the site, we can change it; the reason it exists is for you to use.
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/26 19:41:13 (permalink)
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    Some new songs uploaded lately by users in content/songs, but Sounds and Patterns have been dead since Grandpa's uploads of 3/8...

    Is anyone supporting Project5? Other than technical support, I mean...



    User imput is about it. Where's the beef?


    mike85021...I think you got the quotes wrong...this comment...

    Some new songs uploaded lately by users in content/songs, but Sounds and Patterns have been dead since Grandpa's uploads of 3/8...

    Is from the first and orginal post to this thread on page 1 and is from agincourtdb not me!
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/26 20:06:15 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Greg Hendershott [Cakewalk]

    ...We wanted ... a place dedicated to Project5 files....So that Project5 owners could learn from each other.

    ... When you have the actual P5P file, you can see exactly how. That's pretty cool. At least I've learned stuff, from downloading and listening to your songs.

    ... we really wanted to encourage owners to share their Project5 files with each other.

    Is this "encouragement" to upload the Project5 file too strong? Would you like to see this changed? ... Let us know, because if most of you aren't happy with the site, we can change it; the reason it exists is for you to use.

    Thanks for responding to this.

    Sometimes, because users have plugged in mostly all non-native synths and patches, uploading the P5 file just doesn’t make sense. In that case, I would rather just upload an MP3 so everybody can hear what it is supposed to sound like. I think it’s great that we have the option to share native P5 files, but to make a zipped file prerequisite to posting an MP3 directly is a bit strong handed. Given that choice, I’ve occasionally just uploaded the zipped MP3, as have others.

    Sometimes the size limitation makes it impossible to upload a native P5 song.

    Recently, you may have noticed that there’s been some pleasant interaction here in the exchange of music via links. Some of the songs are uploaded to the P5 content page, other aren’t. The problem with the content page is the lack of easy immediate feedback, and easy access; there’s no direct way to get from the forum to the content pages, and vice versa. IMHO that’s a big drawback. The content pages are isolated. Half the new users don’t even know they exist. The same is true of the tutorials. It would be very useful to have direct access to these items from within the forum. I don’t see any good reason that they should not be.

    As long as I’m P&M-ing, the sign in for the user page is weird. You sign in, and then you’re signed in. But you haven't gone anywhere.

    I see some sites which have new offerings every week, and I’m not talking about marketing gimmicks; I’m talking about new wav files, and new songs. Specifically, the ACID website offers a weekly 8 pack which you can download and play, and sounds you can add to your collection. I may be wrong, but it seems like those things are produced from within.

    Again, I think it’s great for P5 owners to be able to share, but make it easier and more accessible (consolidate), make it more fun (feedback options), and have Cake throw us a bone occasionally (patterns, songs, loops). And follow up! Like, what ever happened to the song contest?

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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/26 20:07:43 (permalink)
    ORIGINAL: Greg Hendershott [Cakewalk]

    Thanks for your comments.

    Is this "encouragement" to upload the Project5 file too strong? Would you like to see this changed? Or does my explanation make you feel differently about it? Let us know, because if most of you aren't happy with the site, we can change it; the reason it exists is for you to use.



    Hi Greg.

    Thanks for your continued efforts to listen and act on feedback from your customers. I saw this first hand with the envelope issue on the Sonar forum. Cakewalks approach is very encouraging for existing users of Sonar 3 and Project 5 like me.

    This is not related to the project 5 website but is related to uploading songs...what about a sticky on the Project 5 forum where people can post links to their songs giving a brief desciption of P5 fx , Dxi's, mixing and mastering strategies used?

    There are already a few threads with users posting their efforts in P5 but it is a bit fragmented over the forum.

    I think existing users of P5 and especially potential buyers of the product will be able to get a great idea of the capabilities of Project 5 and be able to stay within the forum if there is a sticky available within P5 for completed projects in P5.

    I know that is the first place I would look on the P5 forum as an exisitng user. It clearly will help potential buyers as well.

    Other forums have implemented this feature.

    I am aware their is a songs forum I think for Cakewalk users but I think the sticky will help existing users share their ideas and provide a much needed thread where existing and potential users can get links to finished P5 projects, get reviews from other P5 users, share production ideas and more importantly from your point of view provide an easy feedback process for Cakewalk to see exactly how your product is being used in finished projects that we can all hear.

    Just a thought.
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/26 23:07:52 (permalink)
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    I see some sites which have new offerings every week, and I’m not talking about marketing gimmicks; I’m talking about new wav files, and new songs. Specifically, the ACID website offers a weekly 8 pack which you can download and play, and sounds you can add to your collection. I may be wrong, but it seems like those things are produced from within.

    Again, I think it’s great for P5 owners to be able to share, but make it easier and more accessible (consolidate), make it more fun (feedback options), and have Cake throw us a bone occasionally (patterns, songs, loops). And follow up! Like, what ever happened to the song contest?


    ... which is what I've been going on about, hence the thread :-) This is exactly what I'd like to see. Because this is what the site (still) says it's supposed to be.

    It's great that we've kick-started the P5 *user* community a little bit, with song uploads and critiques and the like, now I'd like to see Cakewalk itself join in :-) This is a great piece of software, and I'd like to get the impression CW is as excited about it as I am.

    just my $.02

    -Agincourtdb
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    RE: Project5.com dead or just comatose? 2004/06/26 23:53:30 (permalink)
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    ... just my $.02
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