LANEY
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Jonbouy
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/21 11:52:25
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Now there's a cool slice of marketing, if you are on board their ship anyway. Makes a $80 for a couple of bug fixes and feature enhancements look pathetic, even if Reason 6 from the R5/Record duo is just that. (aside from a move to 64 bit) It allows the fanbois to shower money on their beloved vendor and likewise the naysayers to screw them as much as they dare. I was already in line for the grace period free-update anyway so even I'm freed up to give them money now if I wanted. Perfect.
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Fog
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/21 15:51:58
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yes it's great.. wait for reason 6.5 or 7 to come out (for some reason I suspect it'll be sooner than later) ... and that'll have a proper upgrade price, they aren't a charity and to me it's more a "migration" update to get people onboard. reason 6 = a big bit of code recycling from record, and when they built record they had that in mind "modularity" so they could easily bolt that onto reason if Record wasn't as big hit as they wanted. trying to 2nd guess a marketing department regardless of the company is only possible with a time machine.
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Jonbouy
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/21 16:08:09
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Fog yes it's great.. wait for reason 6.5 or 7 to come out (for some reason I suspect it'll be sooner than later) ... and that'll have a proper upgrade price, they aren't a charity and to me it's more a "migration" update to get people onboard. reason 6 = a big bit of code recycling from record, and when they built record they had that in mind "modularity" so they could easily bolt that onto reason if Record wasn't as big hit as they wanted. trying to 2nd guess a marketing department regardless of the company is only possible with a time machine. True, but it does mean you only upgrade at the points where you are actually getting value. Who didn't see a mile off that Record was an interim development to give Reason an audio engine? It was the main prompt to me staying at Version 4 without Record until they announced the grace period update to version 6. Nobody makes anybody buy anything although some see it as a habit to get out their wallet on every new release, some still only purchase on account of the value of what's offered. Nobody can blame a vendor for how or what you choose to buy and when.
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inhouseproducer
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/21 18:10:42
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Reason is starting to look really good! Besides the obvious lack of vsts (which i actually dont mind) Propellerhead looks like they have a big winner. I say to watch this company and also Presonus to become major players in the DAW arena.
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Fog
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/21 18:52:35
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"Who didn't see a mile off that Record was an interim development to give Reason an audio engine? " they didn't... or else they wouldn't have wasted time / money marketing on it.. If it had sold in bigger quantities I doubt it would have been dropped. Their market was more the song writer who used acoustic stuff etc. putting it into reason was a safety net / plan b. it's easy for those who had the hindsight to buy it far late in to the lifespan of it.. I only bought it as it was heavily discounted £30 more than reason on it's own.. mainly for the dongle , as I thought I bet they bring that in as mainstay for EVERYTHING they make. most will have had a DAW by now if they were interesting in doing what record would do with reason years earlier. the only fixing they have done with their stuff in the main has been "compatibly fixes" nothing really more than that. e.g. for AMD cpu's (not optimising though) or for various apple OS's. As I've stated their is a bug in 5 that wasn't fixed and slipped thru with regard to NN19 files. They did nothing really when I contacted them about it. I bet there is an update at a more normal price less than a year. This specific update I class as a migration one.. nothing more / nothing less, hence why they can't ask top dollar for it esp. from record+reason owners.
post edited by Fog - 2011/09/21 19:01:25
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Jonbouy
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/22 14:19:28
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I pretty much agree with everything you are saying there Fog. I'm sure if Record had taken off in it's own right they'd have kept it separate. I never had a desire to use Record having a full blown DAW at my disposal, and this 'name your price' offer is certainly an enlightened tactic to unify current users to the same base level in order to maximise sales further down the line. It is however a genuine offer to those that are already set to gain the least from it and benefitting the loyal buyers (for a change) the most, from this point also they (the Props) will have to provide real value in future releases in order for anyone to part full price for the upgrade. 64 bit is welcome too, they may be later than many in that but they are still a long way from being the last. I hope the NN19 fix comes with this too.
post edited by Jonbouy - 2011/09/22 14:20:36
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backwoods
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/25 07:43:10
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The PH dongle can be used with SSL Duende Native- saving 30 Euro. Massive!!!
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Fog
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/29 20:08:54
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that's interesting to know backwoods, that they have gone with that. downloading the new reason as we speak..only took 1.5 hours to get onto their server , it must be under seriously heavy traffic.. I'm using FDM to download so I get max bandwidth. I can see boxed updates being a thing of the past , sooner than later.
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sykodelic
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/09/29 22:18:23
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just finished installing reason 6. ready to start playing around. can't wait till cake adopts the new 64bit rewire....pay what you want...love it
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Jonbouy
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Re:Propellerhead record
2011/10/01 02:16:17
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sykodelic just finished installing reason 6. ready to start playing around. can't wait till cake adopts the new 64bit rewire....pay what you want...love it Took me 5 hours and some prayers to get it all in one go but I had it installed (both 64 and 32 bit versions) by 3:00 am (BST). I was in line for the free grace period upgrade anyway and I noticed the download link and license had appeared in my account an hour before the countdown clock got to zero, without any intervention from me. No nightmares, or killer bugs, I just started working from where I'd left off a few hours before. Nicely done. Props to the Props on that one.
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