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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 13:18:17
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Thanks. I don't see a huge need for any of that yet because X3 seems to be doing everything I need to at the moment (and more) but I will be looking into reg edit stuff at some point out of sheer curiosity and the luxury of knowing how to customize the program. What I currently have on my mind though is cleaning up my drives and setting my data paths correctly (which I know I have been talking about for a while but haven't had the time). I have some threads bookmarked where you describe the process but if you don't mind I may PM you for some more details before making a move on all that. Today though I am trying to stay as still as possible because it is brutally hot here today and I don't have AC. But I'm sure as a Texan you would chuckle at my double digit heat woes... lol. Cheers.
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 13:44:56
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Everyone's workflow is unique. I rarely work outside of SONAR until a project is mixed. PM inbox is always open. The Gulf Coast rarely gets into triple digits but 90's with 90+% humidity is not very pleasant. Although I have spent a few years without AC (years ago), I can say it is much worse without any power at all, such as the two weeks after hurricane Ike.
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 13:49:23
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Hi Beepster,
I didn't fully understand your question about automaton and nodes, but I think this may be what you're after:
With the smart tool selected, select the section of the envelope you want to raise/lower. Then move the pointer above the envelope in that section until the icon changes (can't describe what it changes to right now because I'm not at my DAW). Next click and drag up and down, and Sonar will automatically create the 4 required nodes and raise or lower that section of the envelope. Quick and easy. Hope that's what you meant.
JamesWindows 10, Sonar SPlat (64-bit), Intel i7-4930K, 32GB RAM, RME Babyface, AKAI MPK Mini, Roland A-800 Pro, Focusrite VRM Box, Komplete 10 Ultimate, 2012 American Telecaster!
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 14:32:35
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Warning: The following is woefully off topic and more or less just blathering as I formulate a data storage/management plan. @scook (no need to read this really... just boring stuff I'm doing) Awesome. I'd like to do it this week but I was perusing some of the stuff on my c drive and the actual cleanup is going to be quite a bit of work. Basically I have a rather silly habit of copying my download exe's from the Downloads folder (as opposed to cutting them) then pasting the to the desktop until I install them. Then I drop them into a special desktop folder for safe keeping (and easy external backup) so if I need to reinstall something I don't have to download again. Needless to say both the Downloads folder and the exe back up folder are rather huge at this point (it is basically every single program and library I've downloaded since I built the system over two years ago). I thought I had been rather vigilant in my wacky little system but I see now that a) there are quite a few things still sitting in my downloads folder that I may not have installed (mostly freebies from Cake that I snagged while I had my account open to snag something else but didn't execute at the time) and b) I'm now realizing that everything in my special exe backup are the unzipped installers which are taking up more space than necessary. Sooooo I have to make some decisions and cross referencing in regards to what I already have installed and whether I should keep the unzipped installers or just the compressed exe's (I will likely choose the latter for obvious reasons). I also have storage choices to make. I realized recently that I have a pile of blank DVDs that I thought were defective but actually burnt a bootable Linux disc on one recently so I may use those for certain things and then my external drive for other stuff (which also desperately needs a serious cleanup). That'll clean up about 40-80GB on my C drive. That's without all the crazy audio stuff which will be even nuttier because everything has been defaulting to C (even though I have a 1tb secondary drive lying mostly empty even though it itself is crudded up with a bunch of old system images and bulk storage much of which I don't need). So now that I know how to create backups of projects with PPF I can scour all the weird experiments I've done and get rid of any superfluous nonsense. Without touching my currently active projects or legitimate work I may want to revisit I should be able to clear another 40-80GB on the C drive that way and then send the rest of the project/audio files to the E drive where I actually want them. I'm not running out of space on my C drive yet but considering how I am currently working it is going to fill up fast at this pace especially with my predisposition for doing a crapload of takes for each track to write, then another crapload to perfect. I also still have about a hundred hours of old audio/video on my old system and various DVDs/CDs that needs to worm there way on there to so disk space is definitely a commodity. I can no longer allow things to be saved willy nilly wherever it may land if I'm to accomplish things without dropping cash I do not have on a ton of extra drives. Dog help me if one fails. I always sucked at understanding file management in Windows but it all makes much more sense to me now. I just have to deal with the mess my ignorance and perhaps exuberance has made then I can start pointing programs to the correct locations. The data paths are really all I'll need help with though. The rest is just tedious grunt work. As far as the weather... my thermostat is telling me 88 but it is rather humid. Probably about 96 or so in reality but I've got the windows open (trying to ignore the weirdos outside) and the ceiling fans going (one of the awesome things about this place) so it's feeling alright at the moment. I usually just need to get through the first heat wave of the summer then I can handle the extremes. Surprisingly I think I'm already there after only a day and a half of these temps. Sure is a lot easier though than when I used to do construction outdoors in the middle of the summer... including roofing. Yikes! Cheers.
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Beepster
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 14:35:33
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sharke Hi Beepster,
I didn't fully understand your question about automaton and nodes, but I think this may be what you're after:
With the smart tool selected, select the section of the envelope you want to raise/lower. Then move the pointer above the envelope in that section until the icon changes (can't describe what it changes to right now because I'm not at my DAW). Next click and drag up and down, and Sonar will automatically create the 4 required nodes and raise or lower that section of the envelope. Quick and easy. Hope that's what you meant.
That is absolutely perfect, my friend. I knew there must have been a quick solution and I'm sure the manual would have told me that but sometimes I find these gems can be hard to find without combing through entire swaths of semi related content. I will give myself a course in automation but really that bit allows me to do what I intend to without losing momentum on this project. Thank you.
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 14:52:40
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Good luck with the clean up.
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Beepster
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 14:55:20
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Thanks. Just typing that helped formulate the plan. Helps to externalize the chaos to make sense of it. Carry on. ;-)
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 15:07:23
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Beepster
sharke Hi Beepster,
I didn't fully understand your question about automaton and nodes, but I think this may be what you're after:
With the smart tool selected, select the section of the envelope you want to raise/lower. Then move the pointer above the envelope in that section until the icon changes (can't describe what it changes to right now because I'm not at my DAW). Next click and drag up and down, and Sonar will automatically create the 4 required nodes and raise or lower that section of the envelope. Quick and easy. Hope that's what you meant.
That is absolutely perfect, my friend. I knew there must have been a quick solution and I'm sure the manual would have told me that but sometimes I find these gems can be hard to find without combing through entire swaths of semi related content. I will give myself a course in automation but really that bit allows me to do what I intend to without losing momentum on this project. Thank you.
I picked up that little hint from this forum ages ago. I'd been automating the on/off switch of a plugin to a rhythmic pattern and was having a horrible time drawing all the nodes of the required square wave pattern. When someone told me about that it was like sprouting wings lol....I'm still a little shaky on some automation tasks but getting better all the time.
JamesWindows 10, Sonar SPlat (64-bit), Intel i7-4930K, 32GB RAM, RME Babyface, AKAI MPK Mini, Roland A-800 Pro, Focusrite VRM Box, Komplete 10 Ultimate, 2012 American Telecaster!
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 15:13:54
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May want to spent a few minutes with the "X2 Automation" video at Cake TV. It is a good no-frills intro.
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Re: Proper workflow/process for metering and manually levelling tracks with automation?
2014/06/30 15:22:45
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Once things settle down a bit around here I'll be going through all the vids posted as well as the ones I have stored locally. I have a much better test project in the works to mess with than the Beeps Creep but I'm also using it to learn some of the finer points of creative input manipulation (like MIDI, Matrix, general editing, etc) before intensive mixing stuff. I'd like to get another month pass to G3 as well. Here's to hoping things settle down. lulz
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