smallstonefan
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Props to IK for Amplitube
So I've had this for awhile and I took advantage of the recent group buy to add to my gear collection but I hadn't spent much time with it until this weekend.
HOLY CRAP.
What an amazing product! I've had Pods in the past and didn't care for them. I'm a "real amp" guy with new and vintage tube amps and effects (love my Echoplex). But Amplitube has made me a believer. To be able to just fire it up, pick a preset that strikes my creativity, and jam/record is very freeing. I've got my amps mic'd up but waiting for tubes to warm up and not being able to EVER dial an exact effects I used on a track was always frustrating. Being able to tweak the re-amping at any time is very cool and creative in its own right, and I assume I can use Melodyne to fix mistakes since I'm recording the raw guitar input (haven't tried yet).
If you are a guitar player and haven't given this a test drive - you really should.
PS: Would love a larger GUI... ;)
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 12:13:00
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I hear ya James....I've also had POD Farm and was overwhelmed with all the great amps/fx/volume of gear in Amplitube. I've even used some the Orange amps (clean) on vocal tracks......which btw sounded really good. I don't think I'll need much in the amp dept. for sometime.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 12:27:33
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I am using Amplitube with my iPad with good results. It is very responsive and fun to use.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 13:09:34
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Pretty incredible isn't it. I too was a tube amp die hard up until last Summer when I bought Orange on sale. Now I own them all. The 50w tube combo doesn't get fired up to record with much any more. The Ampeg bass amps are pretty nice as well, it is slowly replacing my bass amp as well.
Jimmy, iPad version is next on my list. I need a travel companion.
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smallstonefan
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 13:44:33
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I'm glad to know I'm not crazy! I've been a bit of a tone snob for years. :) It's too bad they didn't implement some sort of season pass - where you get everything rather than having to wait for sales and buy jam points... I've got <almost> everything, but nothing left that is driving me to buy more (I say that after buying 2 T-Rex pedals yesterday) lol
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 13:46:19
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Does anybody know how to dial in that "Brown Sound" that Van Halen had on their 1st album? or at least something close to it?
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 13:49:06
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2014/03/31 13:50:07
Mesh - go out to the IK Preset Exchange - it's a link inside of Amplitube. Do a search - there are some killer patches for this exact tone (and all free).
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 13:54:11
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smallstonefan
Mesh - go out to the IK Preset Exchange - it's a link inside of Amplitube. Do a search - there are some killer patches for this exact tone (and all free).
Thanks James.....I think Grem mentioned about these patches during the GB, and my short term just memory failed me......will be heading on there this evening!!! :)
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 14:34:15
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I wish more patches had user ratings so you can look at the top ones easier - there are lots of patches out there. However, some of the early Van Halen tones have high ratings and you will find those pretty easily. If my memory doesn't fail me I'll try and post a short list of some of the interesting patches I found. :)
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 15:22:01
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smallstonefan
I assume I can use Melodyne to fix mistakes since I'm recording the raw guitar input (haven't tried yet).
Yep.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 15:28:34
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hot diggity dog - it's super-star solo time! :P
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 15:35:41
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2014/03/31 15:45:44
bapu
smallstonefan
I assume I can use Melodyne to fix mistakes since I'm recording the raw guitar input (haven't tried yet).
Yep.
Considering the amount of mistakes I make.......if not anything else, I can become a Pro Melodyne editor. (see what I did there?)
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 16:56:32
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Am I the only one who finds Amplitube noisy and brittle sounding? Don't get me wrong, I really want to like it. Any every time I read positive comments about it, I download another few Custom Shop amp/head combos to try out ('cause i'm convinced it must be me). I've gotten great clean sounds from it, but the minute the distortion/overdrive kicks in, I find it unmusically harsh.
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smallstonefan
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 17:47:46
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Hi Monkey,
I don't get that at all. In fact, I am totally surprised by the warmth and harmonics that come out of it (never thought I'd describe a modeler with those words). It makes me wonder if you have an issue with your input or gain staging. Until I got my signal path sorted out, I wasn't happy with the results. Once I dialed in my interface it came alive.
If you haven't tried some of the presets from the Present Exchange I highly recommend you do so - there are some well-dialed-in sounds there. What type of tone are you looking for? I may have a preset to recommend...
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 18:04:28
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Many of the presets are not "Preset" with the Noise Gate...they give you the "raw" amp sound and leave it to you to set the "Gate" to your liking...so when you select them you'll get the "whole shabang" noise and all... The distortions, to me, are not as "digital" as the others...they don't have that "thing" that the others do..they sound more "real" to me....still not as good as "the real deal" but getting closer... But, I have to say, Amplitube has overtaken GR5 for me...I can't get the same "realism" with GR5 that I get with Amplitube...but, that's just me... I have just about every Amp Sim out there...while S-Gear is far better for Mild Drive and Clean... Amplitube is a butt stomper...across the spectrum... AmpLion is pretty nice...but still not quite there yet... GR5 was my "Go to"....but has taken a back seat... Revalver...eh...workable if you work at it... TH2....same....not thrilled, but sorta usable... I have all the free bees too....some are ok, some, not so much...but free....so can't complain (even though I still do  )... All in all....Amplitube has taken top seat IMO...and it is getting used more and more... PLEASE NOTE: This is purely MY OPINION...your mileage may vary....
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 18:13:23
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Love Amplitube. I bought Fender and Ampeg and moved on to other things. I'm pretty happy.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 18:25:21
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Some of you know my son is in a death-metal band. So he uses Amplitube metal. He's all about "that" tone.
When they were working in their last album and had raw guitar tracks, the producer said they should re-amp. So, my son takes his tracks home and uses Amplitube Metal to "re-amp". The producer was wowed and asked what amp did he re-amp with. When he found out it Amplitube the producer was blown away. He did not expect that.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 18:30:06
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At Craig Anderton's suggestion, I have started to roll off some of the highs with an EQ placed in front of A3. That helps to tame any of the fizz or brittle high end on the more distorted or overdriven tones on all of the sims. Also, set the inputs and outputs in A3. You want to have a solid signal going in, but make sure you stay out of the red on the way out.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 18:36:46
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Thanks smallstonefan and cclarry for your comments. Like i said, I'm talking strictly about overdriven guitars. I've gotten great clean sounds out of Amplitube (and even better out of Scuffham s-gear) but I am still in search of the holy grail of heavily distorted Marshall sounds (think first G'n'R album). Though I haven't tried the Slash version, I still hear the same thing from the demos I've heard.
I HAVE gotten good sounds out of Overloud THM but still not quite what I'm looking for.
I know, I know. Then buy a Marshall or a Blackstar or whatever, but my recordings are done late at night with a sleeping wife and four kids in adjoining rooms ;)
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 18:55:58
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Seems like Slash is the one to try. This is where the customshop is useful.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 18:57:19
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MakeShift
At Craig Anderton's suggestion, I have started to roll off some of the highs with an EQ placed in front of A3. That helps to tame any of the fizz or brittle high end on the more distorted or overdriven tones on all of the sims. Also, set the inputs and outputs in A3. You want to have a solid signal going in, but make sure you stay out of the red on the way out.
I recently picked up Sonimus Sweetone for this purpose, but I haven't tried it yet. The new SlickEQ would work great too...I would think.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 21:15:09
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☄ Helpfulby Mesh 2014/04/01 08:36:33
Search for these on the preset exchange - most are high gain models and I think they all sound great...
1984-5150
5150 Clean
All Around Mesa Sound
Boston
Carcass
Devilmetal
DG sia
Dual brits
Dueling Rectifiers
EVH Soldano
Mesa Boogie Distortion
Mesa Boogie Lead
Rock Rhythm 1
Steve Vai Lucas
The Brown Sound 1984
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/03/31 22:29:26
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Another "trick" I learned to "tame" the distorted sound was using a De-esser....
to get's rid of the "extra fizzy" stuff....and it works...
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/04/01 08:39:42
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/04/01 08:48:17
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So far I haven't used it. I've fired it up, but in sniffing though presets, I haven't found what I'm after. GR5 is what I've been using. Probably would be easier if I was a guitar player and had some idea of what to do, but I'm not so I just snuffle around presets until I find something I like.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/04/01 08:50:59
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Said it over and over...I love IK products...except SepticTank...they seriously dropped a big brown turd by letting that sit idle for far too long... But everyone will buy it....regardless.. GAS always wins....
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/04/01 09:01:00
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I am another happy Amplitude user and in fact it is the only amp modeler that I am using now and I tried a lot of them!
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/04/01 09:01:35
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Monkey23
Thanks smallstonefan and cclarry for your comments. Like i said, I'm talking strictly about overdriven guitars. I've gotten great clean sounds out of Amplitube (and even better out of Scuffham s-gear) but I am still in search of the holy grail of heavily distorted Marshall sounds (think first G'n'R album). Though I haven't tried the Slash version, I still hear the same thing from the demos I've heard.
I HAVE gotten good sounds out of Overloud THM but still not quite what I'm looking for.
I know, I know. Then buy a Marshall or a Blackstar or whatever, but my recordings are done late at night with a sleeping wife and four kids in adjoining rooms ;)
http://www.ratvalveamps.com/marshall-class-5-headI use a LiveWire ABY splitter and one side goes thru a Marshall Class 5 head and then comes out the headphone jack to a line in on my audio interface. I can record all night wearing cans and nobody knows but me. The head is not modified as suggested at the link, but its something I'm interested in, especially a Master Volume, so I pointed you there to give you more options. The other side of the splitter feeds a Roland VGA-3 modeling amp, usually set to clean for recording via a line in, which makes re-amping later on easier. I have a Pod Pro to round out the hardware processing for guitar. On the software side, having the real Marshall track and a clean track is the fastest way to hear a "re-amped" tone, without having to re-amp. Second fastest is running an instance of Amplitube on the clean track, and the first time I do this for a given piece, I'll usually print it to a third track to save cpu cycles, knowing it will probably never survive in a finished mix. When it comes to blind A/B live tests, I believe its not hard to differentiate between most software and the real thing, but... By the time you chop and slot the guitar tracks into a busy mix, I don't know that there's enough left to hear differences between the Roland, Line 6, Amplitube, and the Marshall. Time will tell.
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Re: Props to IK for Amplitube
2014/04/01 11:25:14
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I am another happy Amplitude user and in fact it is the only amp modeler that I am using now and I tried a lot of them! I don't know if I have used them all, but most of the big names, I have. I have TH2, GR4, S-Gear, Revalver HD, and Amplitube 3. A3 is getting the most use, probably 90% of the time, followed by S-Gear and then Revalver. All of the amp models sound more realistic to me and my guitar reacts more like a real amp with A3 than any other sim. I have just about every Amp Sim out there...while S-Gear is far better for Mild Drive and Clean...
Amplitube is a butt stomper...across the spectrum...
I have used S-Gear for several years and I am updated with the Wayfarer amp. I really like S-Gear and I like the owner's responsiveness to customer service. I can't say that I agree on S-Gear doing better Clean, Mild Drive or Crunch, though. The Fender collection of Amplitube is amazing. The Orange collection wins for crunch to my ears. Now that I have the Hendrix.....nice!!! The Bassman and Marshall "Hendrix" presets are outstanding. I want to add S-Gear into my mix because I like the idea of different texture to the songs. I am having a hard time finding an instance where I think it sounds better. I will drop them both into the FX bin and set up my prefered amp and setting on each. I seemed to always be picking A3 as the winner when I A/B them in this way. I went to the preset xchange area at IKM last weekend and down loaded Paul Rose's presets for blues guitar tones to use on my latest song. Wow. They fit so nicely with almost no tweaking.
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