Punch in query

Howdy y'all
I'd regard myself as a newbie to recording so hopefully my question fits into this section.  i am doing a punch in to fix a mistake i made on a guitar track.  Weird thing is, the punch in has for some reason dropped in volume to the rest of the track. I cant find anything in the sonar settings page which might explain this.  I didnt adjust any volumes. I simply clicked on the punch in icon and dragged the two sliders to where i want the punch in and re-recorded that small clip.
many thanks for any help.
Xave

Hi Jonsey
It's an accoustic guitar with a built in pick up.  Standard jack plug going into an M audio USB sound card.  Im using sonar X2 by the way.  Hope this helps.
Cheers.

Hi Digi
Its the darndest thing.  The vol for the guitar is actually inside and the settings on the m audio is as they were  :(    The wave form looks the same.    I think i'll delete the punch in, save the cahnges, close Sonar and reopen it.  I'll try the punch in again.     Just on a separate quick question on punch in.  Is it difficult to adjust the crossfade on punch in.    Last song i did, the punch in was ok but you could hear the "skip" where the punch in was.  It wasnt very bad but you could hear this slight difference in the clip.  it was kind of like listening to an old vinyl record with a slight skip.   No biggie y'all but have you guys ever come across this?   Cheers for the replies neighbours.   :)
Xave

Don't forget to slip edit out the bad parts behind your clip by splitting the original clip and dragging the edges to meet as described above if that makes sense.

Thanks Mike.  i must admit its a bit greek right now but i'll open a mess project and goof around with it. i noticed in the help files there is slip edit which they describe as non destructive and then the "offline" version which is destructive.  Not too sure what they mean other than destructive is taking a sledge hammer to your best china dishes. But the help diagrams do show a graph you can drag to adjust its line of curve.  Yep, think i'll definatley open a mess prject to goof with on this one. 
Redid that punch in from scratch by the way and still the same issue with the volume.  Rechecked all vol controls but am at a loss.  I'll have a look at cake tv and see if there's any vids.  If no joy, i'll mail the help guys and see if this is a known issue etc.
Thanks for all the tips Mike. 
Xave

Check out some of the Videos

Heres one on clips

http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONARU.aspx/Get-Started
 
Scroll down the page-Its the 6th row down 3rd one in titled X2 Clips

I usually leave it in until I get my takes done then edit each to fit

One thing you could try is to do your Punch In on its own track instead of going over the original track and see what that does for ya.  

Atleast you will be able to adjust the volume with out to many issues.  Not sure if there is some law for volume on punch ins or not that might be effecting the dropping.

A few things about punching:

When you make a mistake, simply use the split tool to split before and after the mistake. Then before you delete the new clip.... use the auto punch ...turn it on then use the "set punch points to selection"..... NOW, you can delete the old mistake....

now, simply set the now point to a few measures before the punch..... hit record and start playing along.... play through the punch in/out ....

the new punch should be totally flawless. no clicks and no pops, and it the levels are the same it should sound like it was recorded at one time. 

With a vocal punch, it's easier.... just split between the phrases and record the entire phrase again..... it's probably only a few words anyway.... so much easier than punching on a guitar solo for example. 


level differences generally come from the actual levels being different and also if you use any gain or normalization on the track and then do your punch. HOWEVER.... using the select clip and then PROCESS> apply effect> gain.... then select the preset down arrow..... you have access to very small to larger boost and cuts to the level......I have used this to bring a clip up or down as needed to match the surrounding material.

Howdy all
just got the following from cakewalk support.  Thought id share this with y'all.
It sounds like either you were playing the part slightly differently from the original take, or the gain got changed either from the guitar's end or from the control on the M-Audio itself. you can compensate for this however if you drop the Edit Filter on the track strip and change it from "Clips" to Gain. This will create a separate gain envelope for each clip. This will allow you to increase the gain for the punched part to even it out with the rest of your track.


Thanks again for your help guys.