QUESTION: Noel, Braydon, Seth: How keep the Sonitus EQ as the default EQ with X1 producer?

Hi all,

Working on a per track basis, I still prefer seeing more details when to comes to a EQ freq graph and data. While I like the new EQ, I think Ill just use it for BUS sweeps and shine.

My question is, is there a way to default back to the sonitus EQ per track so it uses the onboard graph much like the pro channel EQ does? I understand I can drop one in the audio effects bin, but I'd prefer to see the graph GUI being used with the sonitus EQ.

Bakers? Is there a command we are missing to revert back to the default sonitus plug?

Interesting - I have X1 Studio edition which doesn't include Pro Channel.  The Sonitus is the default, built-in EQ, just like in previous Sonars.  I thought you had to insert Pro Channel.  Do you mean it automatically comes up with every strip?

RB

Good call Scott! I would like to have the choice too. Shouldn't to hard to implement, seeing as X1 Studio works that way.

Sven

I take it no ones knows if this is possible? Seems incredibly strange since we have been using the Sonitus plugs for years now only to be locked out from using them with the track plot graphs. If this feature is not available, it should be corrected.

You could save and use templates from 8.5 using the SONITUS eq.
Once you switch to the pro channel eq there is no way to revert back to the sonitus eq. That is by design - we only provided for the Sonitus eq as a convenience to bring in existing project files.
There is no real advantage to using the sonitus eq over the new eq in new tracks or projects.
If you really want to use it then patch it as a normal effect.

Another issue is that the Frontier AlphaTrack defaults to the Sonitus Eq as it's default. Not sure if there is a way to change this.
I'm new to the AlphaTrack, as well as X1.
This is all giving me a headache.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

Also I never "switched" nor saved a project with the pro channels EQ enabled, so I am quiet baffled why it is "defaulting"

 
Its by design thst the pro channel eq is the default for all new projects. The Sonitus EQ compatibility was solely provided for backwards compatibility but not for new X1 projects since the pro channel is superior to the sonitus eq DSP wise.
 

Was there something broken about the Sonitus EQ? If not, EQ is EQ.

10Ten

EQ is EQ.

--One of the most pithy and to-the-point posts of recent days.  It's been long established that EQ is a vanilla flavored function that doesn't sound better or worse despite whatever the interface looks like.

For a program's EQ-of-choice to be usurping the functioning of a program only speaks to the money invested in promoting its use, and is jaw-droppingly unfair of the developers to force users into using it.  Previous to X1, if a user chose to use a different EQ than what was provided, it was easy enough to implement that desire.  But now people are faced with having this one plug-in forced on them?---um--what's wrong with this picture?--

RB

Bub


What do you mean it is forced on them Randy? Is it embedded and can't be turned off?

Edit: I don't mean that in a confrontational way, I'm asking a serious question. I wanted to clarify that.

Howdy, Bub, I didn't find your question confrontational at all - I'm responding to the issue on this thread and others, that people using X1 Producer (I'm on Studio without Pro Channel) seem to be saying that they can't elect to use the processing plug-ins they want to use.

As Noel said on this thread, "...Its by design thst the pro channel eq is the default for all new projects..."

RB

See the other sidechaining thread. We EDM producers need a bigger GUI on our EQ to make surgical adjustments. This is a big deal for us.

Wow I didn't notice that yet. That's a but of a bummer since the mini-plot in the inspector is so handy... I suppose it's all part of the move into the future.

ProChannel is not a plugin. It is hard wired into every channel and bus. The only option we have is to use or not use it.

You can still use any fx inserted into the FX box like any other plugin. The diadvantage is that we used to be able to have as many as 6 bands of eq from the Sonitus eq in our channel strips and not have to use it as a plugin because the default eq for each channel was the Sonitus EQ. Not the case in SONAR X1 any more.

Another lost function.

Was there something broken about the Sonitus EQ? If not, EQ is EQ.

Not entirely true. There are different techniques for dealing with eq'ing up towards the nyquist limit, for example. I'm pretty sure the Sonitus wasn't really broken in any way, it's just that DSP techniques move on and the ProChannel seems to be taking advantage of new, improved methods.

But the Sonitus eq's GUI is much better than ProChannel's, IMO.  I would much prefer the ProChannel eq dsp with a Sonitus-like GUI.

while the prochannel is technicaly superior it is  NOT easier for me to use   i also silike not being aboe to save individual preset in the prochannel  it make me have to save the over all preset which while I do like it makes fo r more adjustments to teh individual preset. a save as button where you coudl type the new preset and save would be nice instead of having to open another window first.

Also the individual frequencies have bugs while copying over my sonitus eq  presets  teh radio dials stated displaying number 1 through 10 and not frequencies.  I had to create another track open teh prochannel and it worked then move teh audio tracks over.

teh presets i've saved over the years can't be migrated over from an update (maybe im dumb and don't know how to do it en mass)  having a routing in the preferences coudl address this.

I am learning to use teh new interface in front of paying clients so I am learning asap.

Noel Borthwick [Cakewalk
]

Also I never "switched" nor saved a project with the pro channels EQ enabled, so I am quiet baffled why it is "defaulting"

 
Its by design thst the pro channel eq is the default for all new projects. The Sonitus EQ compatibility was solely provided for backwards compatibility but not for new X1 projects since the pro channel is superior to the sonitus eq DSP wise.