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2018/10/26 02:00:34 (permalink)

Question About Music Sites

OK!  We have Soundclick, Soundcloud, Bandcamp, Reverbnation just to name a few.  I take notice that most here post their tunes to Soundcloud.  The quality of the players differ greatly.  I use mostly Soundclick and Bandcamp.  Bandcamp only accepts uncompressed WAVs where Soundclick, on a free account will accept nothing higher than 128 compressed MP3 files.  I find that Bandcamp's player is so crappy that the 128 MP3s sound better on Soundclick's player.
 
Your thoughts on this.  Which sites players do you find the best?
 
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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 02:48:59 (permalink)
The very reason I don't use Soundclick and Bandcamp is the quality of the MP3s. To me any recording with less than 224 Kbps doesn't match the sound of the recordings I make. I use Soundcloud because it's wav files. Not that it sounds that great but I'm not selling any music and it works for me for friends and family. I listen to the songs I record in Sonar when I want to hear them myself

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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 04:36:17 (permalink)
If you like Soundclick you may want to try bumping up the bit-rate of your MP3 uploads .
On my SC free account I have gotten them to accept and convert up to about 190
 
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http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=427899



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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 10:34:49 (permalink)
i've bought and downloaded a bunch of stuff via bandcamp over the years and never had any issues with the digital delivery (mp3/wav/flac)
 
oho aha you're talking about the online web player widget thing? not enough experience to have an opinion
 
good luck!

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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 12:41:44 (permalink)
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i've bought and downloaded a bunch of stuff via bandcamp over the years and never had any issues with the digital delivery (mp3/wav/flac)
 
oho aha you're talking about the online web player widget thing? not enough experience to have an opinion
 
good luck!


Yeah, not an issue uploading or downloading.  Just the sound quality of their player.
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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 13:04:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jyoung60 2018/10/27 14:54:50
I've always been astounded that so many guys here spend a ton of money on music equipment, yet they won't spend less than ten bucks per month for space on a good web server where they can upload anything they want.
 
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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 15:48:57 (permalink)
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I've always been astounded that so many guys here spend a ton of money on music equipment, yet they won't spend less than ten bucks per month for space on a good web server where they can upload anything they want.
 
Bill


Can you really rent a web server that cheap?  Last I checked they were close to $100.00 a month, but that was a while ago.
Last I checked, a VIP on SC was around $7.00 a month and then I think you can post as high a bit rate as you want.


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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 16:23:00 (permalink)
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I've always been astounded that so many guys here spend a ton of money on music equipment, yet they won't spend less than ten bucks per month for space on a good web server where they can upload anything they want.
 
Bill


Can you really rent a web server that cheap?  Last I checked they were close to $100.00 a month, but that was a while ago.
Last I checked, a VIP on SC was around $7.00 a month and then I think you can post as high a bit rate as you want.



 
I use Box.net, costs (equiv. of) $5 a month. If I chose to I could upload and link to WAVs from there. I just use Soundcloud out of habit really.

 
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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/10/26 16:38:08 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jyoung60 2018/10/27 14:56:07
You just rent space ON a server john. That's what 90% of all websites are. Only big companies have their own servers. You just need a web "host". I've been using these guys for nearly 20 years without a hiccup and unlimited space & bandwidth:
 
https://phpwebhosting.com
 
Of course you'll need to make a web page(s), and if you don't know HTML / CSS, you'll need something MS Expression Web or Dreamweaver to do it, and then upload via FTP. But if you just want to share audio files, you don't need a web page.
 
Yes, it's much easier to use something like a blog site, but then you're stuck with whatever bandwidth and server space they give you, and that isn't much when you consider the size of music or video files.
 
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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/11/09 12:42:15 (permalink)
I'd like to suggest you check out Squarespace, if you would like a really nice, personalized music site..reasonably priced. They offer great templates specific to musicians. It has its own embedded player you can personalize, but as an option you can embed tracks from Soundcloud. You can also have a background video looping with your song plays, as I do. Great for those who mostly share music with friends and family, but you can sell music and merch there too. If you would like to check out my work in progress, it's here:
cnsacoustic.squarespace.com
 
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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/11/09 19:00:01 (permalink)
I'm fairly certain that SC takes whatever you give it and makes it a 128 mp3 for streaming.I believe I read that on their site. Exposure is a prime consideration. Soundclick and Bandcamp seem more "buried" on the back shelf with respect to the web. If you aren't tied into a decent search engine somewhere non one at all will hear the music.
 
While I think all of them are basically musician clubs with occasional non musician listeners, some fare better than others. Some would say SC isn't really that out here either. It probably isn't when compared to YouTube. I've been slow to move my music to YT, but it's probably a really good call if you're looking for exposure. YouTube is the new go to for most younger music listeners and a bunch of older ones too. If you are good on camera, have a likeable personality and something to offer you can really get good exposure there.
 
Reverbnation has way too much candy for me in terms of stuff musicians can spend money on and never see a return from any of it. I'm signed onto it, but haven't been there in ages. Too depressing. I guess if your a band or act travelling and have a fan base it's a much better thing because you can give a shout out to the followers, sell CDs etc. You could probably do the same things without them.

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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/11/09 19:36:36 (permalink)
YouTube is my primary music outlet on the web. It's a shame they did away with the "video response" feature they had years ago. You used to be able to leave a video response to a popular video and get a ton of views to your own in the process. Those were the days. Now it's very hard to get any attention. I saw the other day that Doyle Dykes still only has about 2,500 subscribers after 10 years.
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Re: Question About Music Sites 2018/11/09 19:44:00 (permalink)
Yes a few of the YT benefits seem to either be waning or have already waned. I remember when you could watch YT all day and never get a commercial. Then the commercials began. Then the forced ads. Now I get a pop up that wants me to subscribe to YT so I won't get  ads. I think I seen the same ad last night 10 different times. 
I already pay for cable TV , then cable TV has ads, then I watch YouTube and get more ads. A typical TV show is only 15 minutes of programming in a 30 minute show.

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