Question about 'MIDI VSTs' (Sonar X3 Producer)

Hi all,
 
I've used Sonar for like 5 years now but usually have focused more on audio and not so much MIDI... 
 
Recently I found a VST-based arpeggiator called Kirnu that takes MIDI as input and outputs MIDI that is
synched to tempo and arpeggiated.  
 
Now... I HAVE been able to get Kirnu to work in Sonar X3 Producer using another interesting VST plugin called VSTBoard which itself can apparently host VSTs and route audio/midi between them.  This is my own example shown below as a screen capture from VSTBoard:
 

 
You'll see above the MIDI gets routed in, through Kirnu (to be 'arpeggiated'), out to another VST synth (impOSCar2), and finally the audio from the synth travels back to Sonar the same way it would from any VST.  
 
Hopefully this fully explains what I'm doing here, and for the most part it works OK... BUT.... as nice as VSTBoard is, the interface is a little clunky and there have been some issues getting some VSTs to work with it properly.  Additionally, you cannot load both 32 and 64 bit plugins at the same time in a single instance of the VSTBoard VST (which has its own set of workarounds that are also not ideal).
 
I'm already thinking about upgrading to Platinum for an unrelated feature, but can anyone tell me if this sort of MIDI routing can be done more 'natively' in Sonar X3 Producer or any other version of Sonar?
 
Thanks in advance,
Natalie
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I tried this using various iterations of different checkboxes, etc., when creating these tracks, both before posting my question and after your reply.
 
The closest I think I got to getting it working is when I set the Kirnu track as a 'MIDI Source' rather than 'Instrument Track'... if I do NOT do that, then the green 'levels' on the Kirnu track don't respond at all to my MIDI keyboard.  If I set it to 'MIDI Source', I do see the levels when I play keys, BUT, even with Input Echo set to ON for both tracks, and 'Kirnu - Omni' set as the input for impOSCar, still impOSCar does not act as if it is receiving any input.
 
I am confident enough with my experience with Kirnu to believe that my issue isn't simply that Kirnu isn't setup correctly internally.  ImpOSCar is a synth and therefore traverses basically all octaves, so it's not an issue where the notes would be out of 'range' for it.
 
Here is my attempt... definitely nothing coming out of track 1.... any idea what I could be doing wrong??
 

 
EDIT: I also tried setting the output for track 2 (Kirnu) to track 1.  This results in the strangest behavior.... track one DOES start responding to MIDI but it is the midi that is INPUT to Kirnu, rather than the midi that comes FROM Kirnu.... in other words... it just echos what I play on my keyboard as if Kirnu is not involved in the flow

I'm not using Kirnu Cream.  I'm using plain old Kirnu, and after spending a lot of time getting it working elsewhere such as VSTBoard and VSTHost, I am pretty self-assured this VST only outputs MIDI.
 
You can see it in action here (clearly working in tandem with another synth):
 
EDIT: APPARENTLY the forum won't let me post links???
Here is the code for the youtube video: 7reh9eSNKpo
 
This question isn't just about Kirnu, it's about any VST that produces MIDI as an output.. as per my understanding this is part of Steinberg's VST standard and I'm trying really just to understand how that best fits in.  I would be willing to try any other VST that produces MIDI if you feel that Kirnu is a bad example.

You may need to be careful using the "omni" input when you have a synth in your project that generates midi.