twaddle
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Question about administrtion rights
I've installed windows 10 and made sure that I am the administrator as I always do but there seem to be a few occasions where I've found myself having to, "run as administrator" despite the fact there is only one account on my machine that was set up by me, The administrator. Don't recall having t do this before with windows 7. I couldn't even enter my registration code for sonar as it was greyed out so I right clicked, run as administrator and then discovered I could.
Surely that's not right?
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:13:06
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I think I may have fixed it or at least discovered what might be the problem.
If I right click on the sonar icon and choose properties I see that there are two accounts marked, "unknown"
I'm not sure whether I should remove them or not, my worry is that as I'm running 3 separate drives with 3 separate windows installations it might be that windows 10 has picked those up and they are marked as unknown?
But how/why could it do that? For the moment I've given those accounts full permissions and will see if that solves the issue but if anyone can suggest whether or not it's safe to remove the two, 'unknown' accounts I would much prefer to do that.
Steve
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:31:15
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☄ Helpfulby twaddle 2015/10/05 10:46:57
twaddle
I think I may have fixed it or at least discovered what might be the problem.
If I right click on the sonar icon and choose properties I see that there are two accounts marked, "unknown"
I'm not sure whether I should remove them or not, my worry is that as I'm running 3 separate drives with 3 separate windows installations it might be that windows 10 has picked those up and they are marked as unknown?
But how/why could it do that? For the moment I've given those accounts full permissions and will see if that solves the issue but if anyone can suggest whether or not it's safe to remove the two, 'unknown' accounts I would much prefer to do that.
Steve
Even though you are technically "The Administrator" you still need to set your programs up to "run as Administrator" by right clicking on the Icon, going to "Properties" then to "Compatibility" and make sure that "Run as Administrator" is checked. It's always been that way as long as I can remember, and I've beta tested every version of Windows since Windows 3... Just being "Logged" in, even though you are the Administrator, does not give you "all" the Admin rights...
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:31:51
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☄ Helpfulby twaddle 2015/10/05 10:47:00
It used to be that making a user an administrator enabled god-mode, basically a free pass to do anything you want. Many users (including yours truly) would routinely log in as an administrator to avoid complications with permissions. The problem was that if you then inadvertently executed some malware, it would inherit your god-mode permissions and could do a great deal of mischief.
Microsoft, being the all-knowing Big Brother that it is, addressed that by deprecating the user-admin permissions. They were still called "administrators" but there were now certain things they couldn't do. Such as creating or modifying keys in the HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE hive. Any program that expected to be able to do that would fail. It's one of the reasons I have to do a lot of my development work in a VM running XP.
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:39:57
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Thanks boys Larry, I think you meant, properties/security not compatibility? Or at least that's where it is on my machine. Yes bit, god mode is exactly how I see myself  No clues as to the unknown accounts then? Steve
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:51:02
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twaddle
Thanks boys
Larry, I think you meant, properties/security not compatibility?
Or at least that's where it is on my machine.
Yes bit, god mode is exactly how I see myself
No clues as to the unknown accounts then?
Steve
I'm on Win 10 and it's "Properties" then "Compatibility". Make sure you are right clicking the "EXE" file... If you right click on a "Shortcut" then that's what will pop up, but that's not what you want. Right click on the shortcut and click "Open file location". If that takes to another shortcut do that again. When you get to the "EXE" right click and "Properties" and then "Compatibility" and you'll see down near the bottom the check box for "Run program as Administrator"...
post edited by cclarry - 2015/10/05 11:02:59
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:54:21
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cclarry
twaddle
Thanks boys
Larry, I think you meant, properties/security not compatibility?
Or at least that's where it is on my machine.
Yes bit, god mode is exactly how I see myself
No clues as to the unknown accounts then?
Steve
I'm on Win 10 and it's "Properties" then "Compatibility". Make sure you are right clicking the "EXE" file...
Run as administrator isn't listed under, 'compatibility' I can post a pic if you like? Steve
post edited by twaddle - 2015/10/05 11:04:00
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:55:19
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I just re-edited my post to make it real clear Steve...
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:57:07
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My way will make the "Admin" permanent for the Program...
Otherwise you can just right click and select "Run program as Admin" from the context menu...every time
you want to run the program...
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:57:32
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2015/10/05 11:08:09
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I just re-edited my post to make it real clear Steve...
Ah, beg your pardon, I see it now. Steve
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/05 10:59:57
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I do that for every DAW and Video editing program I use...saves lots of
hassles down the road...LOL
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/08 13:02:05
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☄ Helpfulby twaddle 2015/10/08 16:33:14
TMI alert:
Running a program as a user who is part of the Administrators group is not the same as running as the Administrator account.
With UAC, when you run a program it gets a restricted access token. Even though your user is a member of the administrators group, it may not actively have Administrator privileges. When you run a program and select "Run as Administrator", and your user is a member of the Administrators group, you are given an unrestricted access token.
The reasoning behind this is that even Admins seldom require full access for everyday work. In our world though, our programs sometimes need to make changes to the system that do require full admin privileges. Usually selecting "Run as Administrator" works in these situations.
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/08 21:50:47
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Btw once you've entered all your registration dim pro and rap pro codes you should not need to run Sonar as administrator again, generally not advisable as there can be other consequences down the line (drag and dropping files may stop working for instance). Often buggy plugins can be worked around by registry hack (if it ever occurs).
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Re: Question about administrtion rights
2015/10/09 08:26:51
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When a piece of software needs rights to change global configuration such as the registry, even an admin gets the "elevated rights" prompt. You can turn that off in Group Policy, but that's generally not a good thing to do. I, for one, would like to know if a piece of software is going to affect system settings outside the program settings for the individual piece of software.
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